What Movies Have You Seen Lately?

August 5th, 2016 at 11:53:02 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: Pacomartin
Disney has a habit of being really successful or completely bombing.
Which makes it a crapshoot for investors. Oh, for the days of Sam Arkoff and his formula style of Motorcycle movies, Vietnam movies, Tom Laughlin in Malibu Hippieland, but always profitable.
August 6th, 2016 at 3:55:44 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Fleastiff
Which makes it a crapshoot for investors. Oh, for the days of Sam Arkoff and his formula style of Motorcycle movies, Vietnam movies, Tom Laughlin in Malibu Hippieland, but always profitable.




It doesn't have to be a formula, but sometimes the budget is so high that you are setting yourself up for failure. When Marvel Cinematic Universe started out in 2008, they figured they could make a better movie for the Hulk than the 2003 version. So they had a Production Budget of $150 million and $140 million for The Hulk and Iron Man. The 2008 Hulk made almost the same boxoffice as the 2003 Hulk, much to their disappointment. Hulk lost money, but Iron Man was profitable.

Each MCU film was profitable, but by the 5th film they hit it out of the ball park with one of the biggest revenue films of all time (up to that point).

Quote: Marvel Cinematic Universe, Worldwide Gross

2008 The Incredible Hulk $263.4
2008 Iron Man $585.2
2010 Iron Man 2 $623.9
2011 Captain America: The First Avenger $370.6
2011 Thor $449.3
2012 Marvel's The Avengers $1,519.6
2013 Iron Man 3 $1,215.4
2013 Thor: The Dark World $644.6
2014 Guardians of the Galaxy $773.3
2014 Captain America: The Winter Soldier $714.4
2015 Avengers: Age of Ultron $1,405.4
2015 Ant-Man $519.4
2016 Captain America: Civil War $1,151.5


Disney tries to hit it out of the ball park on John Carter with the highest production budget of the year for 2012. All on a character that almost nobody knows.

Quote: Disney Production Budgets 2012

John Carter (Production Budget: $250 million)
Marvel's The Avengers (Production Budget: $220 million)
Brave (animated Production Budget: $185 million)
Wreck-It Ralph (animated Production Budget: $165 million)
Lincoln (Production Budget: $65 million)
Frankenweenie (Animated Production Budget: $39 million)
People Like Us (Production Budget: $16 million) (Actors: Chris Pine, Elizabeth Banks, Michelle Pfeiffer, Olivia Wilde)

The Odd Life of Timothy Green (Production Budget: N/A)
Chimpanzee (Production Budget: N/A)
The Secret World of Arrietty (dubbed version of Hayao Miyazaki Japanese film)
August 10th, 2016 at 12:48:16 PM permalink
Evenbob
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LOL, 'sequel unlikely'. Now that's funny.

'Ghostbusters' Heading for $70M-Plus Loss, Sequel Unlikely

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ghostbusters-heading-70m-loss-sequel-918515
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August 10th, 2016 at 12:56:42 PM permalink
ams288
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LOL, 'sequel unlikely'. Now that's funny.

'Ghostbusters' Heading for $70M-Plus Loss, Sequel Unlikely

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ghostbusters-heading-70m-loss-sequel-918515


Don't be surprised if there is some sort of spin-off/reboot type thing featuring the four female ghostbusters and some new male ghostbusters (i.e. a Channing Tatum type actor).
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August 10th, 2016 at 1:59:23 PM permalink
Nareed
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I'm looking forward to seeing the new Ghostbusters movie. It premieres this Friday in Mex City.

I saw the first one from 1984 last weekend (it was on cable). I hadn't seen it in years. I was surprised the story is rather skimpy, flat and without much action until the end. Do you realize we see them catch exactly ONE ghost? Watching it I thought it should be easy to make a better movie. Alas, that's not what happened with the sequel.

I loved the animated show, though. Loved it. and there's an odd story to it. See, it was called "The Real Ghostbusters." Why? Because a production company called Filmation owned the rights to the name "Ghostbusters." They did a cartoon with that title in the 70s. It was licensed for the movie, but not exactly for the TV show. In fact, soon after the movie, Filmation again ran a Saturday morning cartoon called "Ghostbusters."

So Egon, Janine and co. had to use a slightly different name, ergo "The Real Ghostbusters."
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August 10th, 2016 at 2:35:45 PM permalink
rxwine
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Using all women for the main stars is a marketing gimmick not an artistic move.

Although I have no problem with that, it's no guarantee of enjoyment.

If the stereotype of studio execs is halfway correct, lots of time they are just guessing something will work. Like the monkey picking stocks.
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August 10th, 2016 at 3:01:36 PM permalink
Nareed
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Using all women for the main stars is a marketing gimmick not an artistic move.


It's a mass market comedy, not high art. I'll settle for wit and decent visual effects.


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If the stereotype of studio execs is halfway correct, lots of time they are just guessing something will work. Like the monkey picking stocks.


Did you ever see a Simpson's episode where Bart and Lisa find a movie reel with an alternate ending to Casablanca? I forget what the ep was about, but I recall the rather terrible ending. An elderly gentleman at the retirement home tells them he was a studio executive involved in that movie. He pays them to bury the reel. He then says "Back then we were just dumb guys in suits. Not like now." :)
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August 10th, 2016 at 4:06:06 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Did you ever see a Simpson's episode where Bart and Lisa find a movie reel with an alternate ending to Casablanca? I forget what the ep was about, but I recall the rather terrible ending.


"Natural Born Kissers" ( May 17, 1998 )
Homer and Marge discover that the fear of getting caught while making love is a turn on and start making love in public places.


"Back then we were just dopes in suits." (1:15)

"I'll give you $20 to bury it again; this one too."
August 10th, 2016 at 4:11:08 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Pacomartin
"Natural Born Kissers" ( May 17, 1998 )
Homer and Marge discover that the fear of getting caught while making love is a turn on and start making love in public places.


That was quite risqué and daring for the time (man, that show is old!)

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"I'll give you $20 to bury it again; this one too."


I recall the other one was a reel labeled "It's a wonderful Life -Killing Spree Ending" :)

Oh and:

Lisa: An alternate ending to Casablanca. Bart, this could be priceless!
Bart: a mother's love kind of priceless or the good kind?
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August 10th, 2016 at 4:36:20 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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That was quite risqué and daring for the time (man, that show is old!)


The episode was the only time that show runner Mike Scully ever got a call from Fox where they suggested not doing the episode.