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Quote: Mission146

I may not like Trump, (though I certainly don't hate him) but I have absolutely no standing whatsoever to question his decision on this. I imagine that if I gathered as much information as I possibly could, I still wouldn't, 'know,' enough to make a judgment. The reason for that is because there would still be information, I assume, that would not be publicly available.

True I can't specifically say I know enough about this particular action, but my mistrust of Trump is based on other events already, much like flying with the same pilot and you get in the plane nervous because of other experiences with him. He repeats too many conspiracy theories, he declares he believes Putin over all our intelligence agencies, he praises strongmen dictators, his Kurdish abandonment was knee jerk and shameful

...more than this. I'd just be repeating things I've said before.

Oh, he caved as wimpily as any President we've ever had with the Saudi Prince and the reporter's death. Might as well bend over and kiss that Prince's ass.

Quote: SOOPOO

Is there anyone here who actually thinks that Iran, if they could, wouldn't be blowing up whatever they could in the US BEFORE this assassination? That this event has not turned a peace loving nation all of a sudden into the largest terror sponsor in the world?

You actually believe that there is this being said at the Iran High Command...... "We weren't planning any attacks, just our usual peaceful diplomatic tactics..... but NOW we should attack....!"

I'll present you with an alternative opinion of which I doubt you have read many, or any, but we don't learn from all the opinions that agree with us, we learn from those that differ.

https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/01/exposed-netanyahu-pompeo-lie-of-imminent-threat-that-justified-the-assassination-of-soleimani/

For your added reading pleasure https://fas.org/irp/crs/RS21037.pdf PDF on Reagans E.O. on assassination. Also see the Church committees opinion on assassination. If you read until the end, you can find justification for extra judicial assassination. But if you read them you can see the intent was to prevent just such killings as Suleiman unless you can prove he killed Americans. I would like to hear more about the lone "American" which supposedly he is responsible for killing?
Nothing I've seen so far speaks to his identity. The only thing I've seen was he was a paid mercenary soldier which the possibility of getting killed, should be in the job description.

Suleiman was our ally until 2002 when Bush placed Iran on the list of terrorist country's. If you were to read, you would find out that he has fought intensely against ISIS/ISIL, and the reason he was in Iraq was to go to the funeral of 38 Iraqi's, which we had bombed in their line of duty fighting ISIS, at the border of Syria/Iraq.

Do you think Trump is legitimately threatening 52 targets, one for each of the hostages back in 79? Would it be fair then for Iran to kill 290 Americans, one for each of the people killed when we shot down their passenger airliner? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655?

Quote: SOOPOO

Did you say the same when a different murderer, Osama Bin laden, was killed?

For starters, we probably don't believe that OBL died on the same day, or in the same manner. I will tell you what I would not have done. I would not have flown one hundred Bin Laden family members out of the country under closed air space, without questioning them about their complicity in 911. That, I would not have done.

But me, if I were in charge, and had found out that GW Bush's good friend Bandar Bush [head of SA's secret police] had a hand in financing or planning 911, it would be a much different story at this time. I'm inclined, even today to investigate Saudi's part in killing 3 thousand Americans and costing us trillions of dollars in unnecessary wars and further losing over 7 thousand American lives.

Do you think we rushed OBL's corpse out to an aircraft carrier and buried him according to Islamic law? Why no photo's, why no parade? If he [OBL] is the cause of the greatest attack on America ever, and perma war, shouldn't be celebrate his demise every year? If you believer we flew him at speed out to sea and gave him a good Islamic burial, do you think we did the same out of respect for Bagdadi?

Should we threaten to bomb 3 thousand holy and archaeological sites in Saudi Arabia if they shout, "death to america", or carve up American journalists? Should we at least investigate who attacked us? Do you feel threatened by Iran, who can't be proved to have killed even one non combatant American, but not threatened by Saudi Arabia who furnished the terrorists for 911? That just doesn't make sense to me.

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I do not have enough info on this scoundrel, and probably neither do you, but he apparently was a mastermind of terror attacks. So we should not go after him because we are afraid they will commit terror attacks? This I am sure of.... these decisions are not easy. In this case we will see the results of the action, but will only be able to guess what the results of inaction would have been.
All Americans have been instructed to leave Iraq. If the result of this assassination is to decrease the American presence in Iraq and the area, then good.

See above.

As Duffman asked me the other day "Too much peace and prosperity, for ya?"

Apparently there was too much peace.

Quote: rxwine

As Duffman asked me the other day "Too much peace and prosperity, for ya?"

Apparently there was too much peace.

Haha. Forgot about that! Good one.

Quote: rxwine

Apparently there was too much peace.

You have to remember Americans don't
like conflict. The majority did not want
us involved in WWI or WWII. It took
Britain losing it's ass to get us into WWI,
and it took Pearl Harbor to get us fired
up about WWII. Many still think Roosevelt
let PH happen so he would have an excuse
to get into the war in Europe.

Quote: rxwine

As Duffman asked me the other day "Too much peace and prosperity, for ya?"

Apparently there was too much peace.

Then Iran attacked our embassy. See when your embassy gets attacked you are supposed to do more than blame a YouTube video and go back to bed.

There is one foreign country where Trump has become a hero, who would probably be happy to use Trump to fight a proxy war for them against Iran.

Did I see "use". Sorry Trump would never fall for that.

Quote: Evenbob

You have to remember Americans don't
like conflict. The majority did not want
us involved in WWI or WWII. It took
Britain losing it's ass to get us into WWI,
and it took Pearl Harbor to get us fired
up about WWII. Many still think Roosevelt
let PH happen so he would have an excuse
to get into the war in Europe.

I missed WW3. I missed Pearl Harbor 2? When did Iran do that?