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| June 8th, 2020 at 3:06:37 PM permalink | |
| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 30 Posts: 5257 |
Ok, so universities aside, because that is not a fair comparison. What logical reason is there to defund all police and force people to hire their own neighborhood security? This is literally an anarcho-capitalist argument that they have been making for years... I have never heard is so widely spread by the left than in the past few days. In my view its foolish when the far right supports it, and its even more foolish when the left supports it (turning public organizations private is never a good thing). |
| June 8th, 2020 at 3:07:58 PM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 137 Posts: 21195 |
You do not understand how many blacks simply hate the police. I am not talking ghetto areas only. I am talking middle class blacks you would never think would hate cops. It runs deeper than you can imagine unless you have heard some say it. So take this base then liberal whites who are ashamed of being white jump in right behind them and support the same thing. The liberal whites of course probably live in an area where the whole police force could take a few days off with few noticing. And they are the sick ones because the blacks who do want a secure neighborhood will not get it when the cops are defunded. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength |
| June 8th, 2020 at 3:09:14 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22939 |
AHA! I have a leftist twist. Just like the Federal government hires private companies, the Federal government can hire the most police where they are actually needed, not based on wealth of the area. (that's why I pulled up that chart on the other thread) "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
| June 8th, 2020 at 3:14:24 PM permalink | |
| Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 30 Posts: 5257 |
Why not just have Federal police in all of America by that logic? I have long advocated more Centralization of Authority (but that is another topic). Why would it be a good idea for the Federal Government to contract out City level police? This seems so unintuitive? I am not sure how your chart relates other than showing current staffing levels? …. You want all police abolished and the Federal Gov to hire out private contractors to patrol streets? I just don't get it. I am so baffled that so many people I usually agree with feel this way.... |
| June 8th, 2020 at 3:18:12 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22939 |
Because the federal government can allocate money to areas of the country that need police the most. A city or state can't do that. Doesn't mean you can't cede other types of control of such police to city and states for more local policy control based on different things going on locally. "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
| June 8th, 2020 at 3:20:20 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22939 | Btw I don't have a strong opinion of private police either way. I was just curious why conservatives were so easily abandoning competition, since they love it and hate government so much. "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
| June 8th, 2020 at 3:20:59 PM permalink | |
| Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
The far left and far right will both support whatever they think will most **** off the other side at any given moment. The goals have nothing to do with workable or logical solution-based policies. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
| June 8th, 2020 at 3:22:28 PM permalink | |
| Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
Too bad for that city or state. The very notion of the Federal Government even taking in money and then disbursing it elsewhere creates waste by itself. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
| June 8th, 2020 at 3:22:47 PM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 137 Posts: 21195 |
Federal police is a totally awful idea not to mention unconstitutional. Policing should be local. State police step in if there is a local problem. Police at federal level is a sign of a repressed society. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength |
| June 8th, 2020 at 3:24:19 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22939 |
Does it? Do you believe the poor kid in a poor part of town should only get the education they can afford? "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |