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November 30th, 2017 at 10:49:32 PM permalink
rxwine
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Go figure?

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The half-brother of North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un was carrying an antidote to the poison which killed him at the time of his death.
Malaysia's High Court heard this week Kim Jong Nam had 12 doses of atropine in his sling bag when he was allegedly swabbed with VX nerve agent in Kuala

Lumpur International Airport on February 13, defense lawyer Hisyam Abdullah told CNN.
The lawyer said K. Sharmilah, a government toxicologist, told the court Wednesday she examined the drug along with several other samples provided by police.

Atropine provides "primary protection against exposure to chemical nerve agents and insecticide poisoning," according to the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists (ASHP).

In addition to the antidote, Kim was also carrying $125,000 in cash at the time of his death, a police officer previously testified in court.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kim-jong-nam-had-antidote-to-vx-nerve-agent-on-him-at-time-of-murder/ar-BBFZeVQ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
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December 1st, 2017 at 12:25:18 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Secret service agents in the presidential protection detail carry atropine also. Its what gets nerves carrying impulses again.
December 1st, 2017 at 12:25:18 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Not surprising a dictator would not have it with him. Well, dictator's brother I think.
December 1st, 2017 at 7:26:12 AM permalink
beachbumbabs
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Quote: Fleastiff
Not surprising a dictator would not have it with him. Well, dictator's brother I think.


Either you misread or I misunderstood. He had the antidote with him. It didn't get used to save him for whatever reason. But it raises the question of what he and any security detail were expecting, and if they expected a nerve agent attack, why they didn't react to it correctly. Or maybe it doesn't actually work? Don't know much about nerve agents, time before uncurable, etc.
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December 1st, 2017 at 7:56:44 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: rxwine
Go figure?


It's tricky. You can get killed by the "antidote" if you take it without being exposed to nerve gas. You can also die from the poison while you're trying to determine whether you've been exposed.

It's not really an antidote, as it doesn't neutralize the poison gas. Rather it counteracts some of the effects.
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December 1st, 2017 at 9:38:07 AM permalink
YeahBaby
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Quote: beachbumbabs
I don't think I can take the stupidity and snide commentary in this thread the last few days. We're supposed to be able to talk about these things, but the bubble is just too strong. How do you folks even read it?

this is to funy coming from u lol.............
December 1st, 2017 at 10:29:17 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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There was not necessarily any expectation of an attack much less a nerve agent but I'm sure they carry a pre-loaded hypodermic needle with them, just in case. It doesn't mean the security people will react properly. The Secret Service never expects an attack with a nerve agent but their agents are trained with how to recognize and deal with it promptly.

I've no idea if this 'reality show stunt' was actually believed but who knows?
December 1st, 2017 at 1:18:45 PM permalink
Evenbob
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It's Skooter Libby all over again. They
don't have squat on Flynn, except like
a moron, he lied. No collusion, no
Russia deals to fix the election, no
nuthin.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 1st, 2017 at 2:37:34 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: Evenbob
It's Skooter Libby all over again. They
don't have squat on Flynn, except like
a moron, he lied. No collusion, no
Russia deals to fix the election, no
nuthin.
Didn't Scooter, out Valerie Plame, for being a CIA asset, because her husband told the truth about there not being any yellow cake?
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December 1st, 2017 at 2:59:34 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: petroglyph
Didn't Scooter, out Valerie Plame, for being a CIA asset, because her husband told the truth about there not being any yellow cake?


It was Richard Armitage that blew her cover,
not Libby. How quickly they forget..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.