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June 24th, 2018 at 4:39:00 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
Sure. If the groom/groom cake is not a product I carry or choose to make.

Why would I ask if people were in the KKK before they ate?


That's why I said "known" members.
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June 24th, 2018 at 4:44:20 PM permalink
Dalex64
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“We just felt there are moments in time when people need to live their convictions. This appeared to be one.” - Stephanie Wilkinson, owner of the Red Hen.

From the perspective of the owner, it is the same thing, whether or not they are discriminating against gays, or against a person because of the policies of their employer.

An article from 2016 says federal law does not ban political discrimination, in most states.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/11/25/can-businesses-refuse-to-serve-or-employ-trump-supporters/

So in this case it looks like it may be legal to express your personally strong held convictions in this way, and in an area that is strongly anti-Trump may even have been a good business decision, regardless how many anonymous internet reviews are posted on Yelp from both sides.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
June 24th, 2018 at 4:45:20 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
That's why I said "known" members.


Here is the hiccup. Most KKK members do not broadcast their membership. It is a "secret society." Some members are known, like the late Robert Byrd (Democrat-WV) but most are not.

How is them eating quietly an issue?
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June 24th, 2018 at 5:00:45 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
Here is the hiccup. Most KKK members do not broadcast their membership. It is a "secret society." Some members are known, like the late Robert Byrd (Democrat-WV) but most are not.

How is them eating quietly an issue?



Feeding known KKK members can be against a sincere belief just as making a cake for gay people is against a belief.

We know they are KKK members, because they announced it when they came in and stacked their confederate flags in the corner along with their cross banner. The son-in-law and his wife in the JDL and are co-owners.
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June 24th, 2018 at 5:04:18 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
How is them eating quietly an issue?


It was a bonehead mistake to kick
them out. Any kind of negative
press is bad for any business, it
can be death for a small one.

It was a win/win to serve her.
Libs would think the owner was a hero
because of the cake incident, and
the Right would applaud her
for not kicking her out. The owner
really screwed the pooch on this
one.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 24th, 2018 at 5:18:00 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
Feeding known KKK members can be against a sincere belief just as making a cake for gay people is against a belief.


Someone has a sincerely held belief that someone should not be fed?
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June 24th, 2018 at 5:23:49 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
It was a bonehead mistake to kick
them out. Any kind of negative
press is bad for any business, it
can be death for a small one.

It was a win/win to serve her.
Libs would think the owner was a hero
because of the cake incident, and
the Right would applaud her
for not kicking her out. The owner
really screwed the pooch on this
one.


It once again shows my point that conservatives may think liberals are misguided meanwhile liberals cannot stand that they have to share the planet with conservatives.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
June 24th, 2018 at 5:23:59 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
Someone has a sincerely held belief that someone should not be fed?



At their restaurant.
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June 24th, 2018 at 5:30:40 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
At their restaurant.


You keep adding conditions and changing situations. Let me know when you settle on one.
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June 24th, 2018 at 6:43:37 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Is this not inciting a riot?
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW