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August 16th, 2019 at 11:35:38 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: reno
Nah, he jumped the shark when he suggested that Ted Cruz's dad was mixed up in the murder of JFK.


People still say "jumped the shark?"
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August 16th, 2019 at 11:37:35 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: reno
Nah, he jumped the shark when he suggested that Ted Cruz's dad was mixed up in the murder of JFK.


He actually jumps the shark everyday with twitter :-)
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August 16th, 2019 at 11:48:46 AM permalink
Dalex64
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At some point, the population required to form a state (such as under the Northwest Ordinance) was 60,000 people.
Several of the midwest states came in to the union under those standards.

As of 2017, Greenland was just a few thousand short of that, with a population of around 56,000.

The population of Guam is about 164,000. Puero Rico over 3 million.
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August 16th, 2019 at 12:01:11 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Dalex64
At some point, the population required to form a state (such as under the Northwest Ordinance) was 60,000 people.
Several of the midwest states came in to the union under those standards.

As of 2017, Greenland was just a few thousand short of that, with a population of around 56,000.

The population of Guam is about 164,000. Puero Rico over 3 million.


That was fine for unsettled territory in the 1830s. Today that is not feasible. Also a language and cultural differences.

You still do not say what is so bad about being a territory.
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August 16th, 2019 at 12:15:39 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: AZDuffman
That was fine for unsettled territory in the 1830s. Today that is not feasible. Also a language and cultural differences.

You still do not say what is so bad about being a territory.


Still? I believe that was my first comment on the subject.

I just listed a few facts, and noted some historical context.

Here is another fact - Wyoming is the least populous state at about 570,000.
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August 16th, 2019 at 12:20:42 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Dalex64
Still? I believe that was my first comment on the subject.


What did I miss? I do not see anything about why you think it would be bad.

Quote:
I just listed a few facts, and noted some historical context.

Here is another fact - Wyoming is the least populous state at about 570,000.


Yes, as I said earlier, if a state, Greenland would be smallest state by 90%. Alone a reason not to grant statehood.
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August 16th, 2019 at 12:38:59 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Dalex64

Here is another fact - Wyoming is the least populous state at about 570,000.


Beautiful in the summer, WY and
MT are unpopulated because
winter starts in Sept and lasts
till May. My wife has a nephew
that made big bucks in MT as
an insurance adjuster because
they couldn't find anybody to
do the job. He lasted 5 years till
he escaped.
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August 16th, 2019 at 12:46:35 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman



Yes, as I said earlier, if a state, Greenland would be smallest state by 90%. Alone a reason not to grant statehood.


If that’s your logic, then Wyoming and possibly some other small states don’t deserve to be a state compared to California with its some 39 million.
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August 16th, 2019 at 12:56:00 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
If that’s your logic, then Wyoming and possibly some other small states don’t deserve to be a state compared to California with its some 39 million.


That is not logic, that is silly. CA was small when it became a state and you would compare state size to the average at admission, not to the largest now. Do you understand the concept here?
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August 16th, 2019 at 12:57:01 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Beautiful in the summer, WY and
MT are unpopulated because
winter starts in Sept and lasts
till May. My wife has a nephew
that made big bucks in MT as
an insurance adjuster because
they couldn't find anybody to
do the job. He lasted 5 years till
he escaped.


I have heard MT is beautiful but described as "poverty with a view." Fracking should help it out. I'd do a tour there.
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