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Need to know, am I too old?June 9th, 2018 at 2:49:10 pm
Here is the setting. Adult guy having a birthday party, half-a-pool party. I'm on craps. Starts well enough, teaching people how to play. Usual craps dealer messing with them just enough. It was some kind of a prize because they charged for chips, which we have no involvement in.

Then she comes to the table. She is young. She's hot. She's blonde. She'd wearing a bikini top and one of those beach skirts women wear.

And she is annoying the hell out of me. Betting whatever. Cheering "COME ON. PASS!" "COME ON DON'T PASS!" just all kinds of things that make no sense. Just the kind that personifies "dumb blonde." The birthday host was at my table though I didn't know who he was. I think he senses my mood as he made half a crack when she left after a few minutes. Had no clue what was going on other than dice being thrown. And yes, when it was her turn to throw she asked about taking all 5.

Am I over the hill for just wanting her to go play Roulette?

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Fleastiff
June 10th, 2018 at 2:02:39 am
At least she asked before grabbing all five dice.

Saw a woman throw the dice in the wrong direction once. That really woke up the box man.

She probably went to play roulette and cheer for Zero.
Fleastiff
June 10th, 2018 at 2:02:39 am
At least she asked before grabbing all five dice.

Saw a woman throw the dice in the wrong direction once. That really woke up the box man.

She probably went to play roulette and cheer for Zero.
AZDuffman
June 10th, 2018 at 3:46:16 am
I just don't see how you can watch the game for more than a minute and ask about taking all 5 dice. I think I once told someone to tale all 5 and bet Snake Eyes.

How do they remember to breathe?
odiousgambit
June 10th, 2018 at 5:29:51 am
at least you got treated to some eye candy. Did she try to throw without making a line bet? ... take the dice back behind the rail, or cup the dice? ... leave her chips when she didn't want to let em ride?

Did she snub you in some way?

otherwise I'd say what you describe wouldn't bother me too much. A snub is the hardest thing to take I think.
AZDuffman
June 10th, 2018 at 5:24:19 pm
Cupped them, made a general mess of everything, didn't snub me but I didn't even waste my time trying. That's my point, though. Are you old when no matter what their looks it is just not worth putting up with them. Like one of those TV or movie characters who just has no patience for their nonsense.

10 years of doing this, she stands out. That says something. If it makes me an old grouch, whatever I guess.

Remembering how hard it wasApril 12th, 2018 at 3:23:40 pm
Every now and then I get asked about casino school, even this many years later. Last week a fellow party dealer asked. I think you have to go to the community college system now, but the learning will be the same. She has been laid off and I guess needs a carer change.

I can talk about it for hours, but had just a few minutes before the gig. So I tell what I can about cheque handling. I show how to cradle them and mention that if you cannot cradle 20 at a time don't even bother. Then I show how to size in. I am not the best, but I would say I am as good as a casino level dealer with a few months under their belt. I say, "you gotta practice this" and size 10 stacks of 2. To me it is a warm-up exercise.

Well. She has one of those, "I gotta learn THAT?!" looks on her face. So I show her slower. We take our tables and I see her trying to practice. I stop her as she is doing it totally wrong, probably how I started but could not do now. Told her don't practice bad form as you just get good at doing it wrong.

I then just showed her how to cradle. Said, "just do this for now." She kind of got it. If I work with her again I will help more if asked. Too bad I cannot side hustle a training gig.

But I look back, I remember how hard it was to do this right. Years later it is just habit. New players, mostly female, watch your hands in awe when you do it right. Just call it one more casino thing I look at how little I knew 10 and 20 years ago vs. now.

Did I spend my time learning something useful?

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Fleastiff
April 13th, 2018 at 7:13:19 pm
Drop cutting and sizing into a bet are definitely important skills to learn and learn to do properly. There are casino schools, community college schools, proprietary schools and even FREE dealing schools. Take you pick based on geography and schedules. Several casinos around the nation are paying neophytes dealers to learn which can be a great deal since the graduates literally graduate into a guaranteed job.

Learning which players you pay with which hand can be a challenge but the box and the surveillance types do not like to see your arm or hand blocking the stack of chips from view. That is why you follow the Stick's call since he tells you what to do and in what sequence you do it in. The dealer however has to know how to manipulate the stacks and how to pay different players with different hands since visibility of the chips is paramount, not dealer convenience.

The skills are probably good to have and will never hurt you. At a party night things can get a little relaxed (no camera, no box) but often being professional about it impresses the players who like to see (or imagine seeing) realism.
Fleastiff
April 19th, 2018 at 6:09:53 pm
Did you ever hear the one about an instructor telling a dealer how to have each hand filled with stacks of a different color? The Instructor said something about "paying with your white hand" and the dealer replied "I don't have a white hand, I'm an Indian".

Most people admire the fast math and fast hands of an experienced dice crew, even if its at a party night gig.
AZDuffman
April 20th, 2018 at 4:04:56 pm
Yeah, I heard that one. Given my opinion of human nature I do not doubt it happened.

I worked a prom where the kids were just amazed at my handwork. I don't even think I am that great, but the kids never saw any kind of dealer before so anything looks good.

I do wonder if women are more appreciating the work of doing it or are just checking out a guy's hands.
Fleastiff
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:43:26 am
Women are prone to check out male competence so wit, manual dexterity, strength ... anything that indicates good traits is noted.

One trainee kept trying to translate payouts into money and this slowed her down. The instructor told her to think in terms of chips, not dollars. A 3:2 payout is easy in terms of chips but onlookers often think you are doing it in terms of dollars. Once you learn that a stack of two red chips is no different than a stack of two Barneys, the speed increases and onlookers are impressed. Ever notice how dice dealers are so visually oriented. Its not just appearance of people at the table, they note passersby, even women who are far off get noted. Players are often described by anatomy or clothing, conversational style, betting style. A great deal of data is being processed, not just the payouts.
AZDuffman
April 23rd, 2018 at 5:26:24 am
I have had women in awe of how I kept the table under control. Once a BF pulled one away who was lingering after things broke up. If I was in the real thing I would probably spring for a man-manicure once a month, that is how close they look.

True to the payout thing, in fact as a student I told some struggling female students "it does not matter." For some reason, the guys picked up to think cheques not dollars more naturally. Maybe the women spent more time as cashiers or something than the men, but the correlation was there.

I agree, one thing about dice is that if you cannot co-process information you had better learn in a hurry. You have to watch everything. You have to have all those odds memorized. And you gotta let the stick be the captain of the ship.
Fleastiff
April 25th, 2018 at 5:54:56 am
>spring for a manicure
Real dealers often do have to invest in decent footwear, manicures and good dental care. Party pit dealers, showgirls etc. need to schedule things like wax jobs regularly or they get demoted to less desirable shifts. Dice dealers usually have an entire outfit including footgear in the trunks of their cars all set to go if they get called in for an emergency shift or get a sudden audition opportunity.
Someone working at a convenience store can 'let things go a bit' from time to time but actors, salesmen and dealers need to stay presentably groomed.

Still more random thoughts dealing parties.February 17th, 2018 at 8:27:47 pm
If there is interest or even if there is not I may post my thoughts on dealing these parties for 10 years. Meanwhile, part of me wonders if the real dealers get as cynical as I can get.

Woman tonight has a soft 12. I call out "12!" She mentions she thought A was 1 or 11. So I say, "OK, fine, 12 or 22!" She gives a friendly "ooops!" In a casino I would have been fired on my tap out for sure!

Another woman has three As in her hand, adding to a soft 20. Do the math for the other cards. I call out the whole way, "9 or 19, 10 or 20!" She hits and gets a 3. I call out "13!" She seems to realize what she did, and her man explains it. I say, "sorry, too late now." Partly because it is a fundraiser, partly because, well, I mean, I called out '20' and she still hit!

Another guy blows thru his 5 chips. His woman asks why he lost all his chips. He shrugs while I think to myself, "because he does not know the game!"

I keep getting questioned about when an A is in the hand. Sorry to say it is 99% females who ask. But say it is A-5. I say, "6 or 16." Two variations happen. Either they say, "6, hit!" or "16 stand!" as if I would only count it as 6, or they ask, "how do you know which it is?"

If I snap at this one day, and I get one BJ dealer on the jury, would I walk?

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Fleastiff
February 18th, 2018 at 6:47:53 am
>well, I called out 20
Yeah but she might make it to 21 and it would be a sure win.
AZDuffman
February 18th, 2018 at 9:14:17 am
@Flea: I tell ya, I see so many stupid plays catch. Idiots hit on 17 and draw a 4.

My standad advice is, "The book says 'x'. Now, after he wrote the book he started a hedge fund and made a billion dollars or so. You might want to take his advice."

At least if I go to Hell and have to deal for eternity the players can't win.

Blackjack, Bitcoin, and Square Roots. Plus a weird thought....January 21st, 2018 at 4:49:18 am
House party last night. Guy's 40th Birthday. Maybe 50 people. I'm dealing blackjack.

Usual red and blue chips we have had since forever. Usual question "what are they worth." Should be 5/25 but is really 1/5 since so few people, even our dealers, would grasp 5/25. Then people ask "1 what?" Of course it does not matter. Play to the crowd and say one thousand, one trillion, whatever. I have mentioned before I am doing market testing.

"Red is one Etherium and green is one Bitcoin."

If they give a weird look I say a dollar amount. If they want to talk about it I play to that. In my 10th year of doing thus (good grief) I gotta keep it interesting. Last night one was both interested and drunk, a great combination. He is playing bad strategy and loses all his chips. It is a birthday so we are told to just give out more chips. Doesn't mean we cannot have fun with them.

Remember, the guy is yelling "I bet one Bitcoin, I bet 4 Bitcoin!" for an hour now.

"Hey, I need more Bitcoin!"
"You gotta mine for it. Can you solve a math problem?"
"Shoot."
"What is the square root of 144 times 12?"
"Uh, Uh, Uh.........."
(I am near getting buzzed smelling his drink BTW)
"No idea!"
Woman next to him says, "144."
I give him the chips, he goes to get a drink. We discuss it. She says, "I always found square roots comforting."

First time I ever heard that. Kind of hope it is the last for that matter! I ask her about cube roots, why not?

"Cube roots are weird,"

He runs out of chips again. I give another challenge.

"What is the square root of 81 times 9?"
"uh, uh, ......"
Different woman says, "81."

Now he is saying the questions are too hard. So I say I bet he cannot get an easy one. He says try him.

"How many cups are in two cups?"
"WHAT?"
"You lose!" I ask the woman next to him.
"HUH?"
I ask the woman next to them, looks to be the mother of the first woman.
"TWO!"
"WINNER!" I give her some kind of bonus.

They kept us one more hour and offered yet another, but I was wiped out. Decent tip though for the first extra.

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Wizard
January 29th, 2018 at 3:46:12 pm
"How many cups are in two cups?"

That was asked of Kelly in Married with Children once. Her response, "How should I know?"
Pacomartin
January 29th, 2018 at 4:15:40 pm
square root of 81 times 9? too easy

What is √(eπ)*ii

Ask the Wizard if you are having trouble
Pacomartin
January 29th, 2018 at 4:17:01 pm
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Pacomartin
January 29th, 2018 at 5:20:23 pm
"What is the square root of 144 times 12?"
"What is the cube root of 144 times 12?"

Which question did you mean? The first answer is 24√3 which seems funny for a party question.
Pacomartin
January 29th, 2018 at 5:35:44 pm
"What is the square root of 144 times 12?"
"What is the cube root of 144 times 12?"

Which question did you mean? The first answer is 24√3 which seems funny for a party question.
AZDuffman
January 30th, 2018 at 3:07:22 pm
@Wizard--that is where I got the idea, and curiously near the same result!

Have you ever heard a woman say, "square roots are relaxing" in your time? If she hadn't been married, would that me a math geek pickup line?
Fleastiff
April 13th, 2018 at 7:20:01 pm
I think the important lesson here is not math but that both real casinos and party casinos like to have dealers who interact with the players and don't just act as automatons. Even a dealer mistake or two is better than being a perfect dealer who never once cracks a smile much less a joke or two.

Good Qualities in a WomanOctober 15th, 2017 at 6:03:20 pm
Dealing craps again, this time for a fundraiser for some group that puts out service dogs that prisoners train. Before it started we got a chance to meet and pet the dogs a bit, which was nice. They were 8 month old labs and as they were service dogs I asked permission to pet them. They said "sure, go ahead." Discussion with them showed that the dogs were still being socialized and they wanted them used to people. Curious thing was the dogs were fast to paw at you, told that they had to be trained to do things like push elevator buttons.

Later the games started. One of hottest tables I ever remember, and I was so happy they were not making place bets. It was too crowded and too loud to explain them, and they were having enough winning at PASS I just wanted to finish the night, being tired from working the previous night getting home at 1 AM, looking at rental properties that afternoon, and looking at an hour plus drive home.

Then she walked up. Oh my. Attractive gal, and the kind that just ooozed class. The kind of class you like. I don't mean old money, snooty class. I mean the kind that you meet when you show up to do a service call at the big house in the nice part of town, nice cars in the garage, and she is polite and friendly as anything. Of course she was married. They are always married. No harm in noticing.

I actually did not notice much at first. Until she spoke. I immediately took notice as she was explaining FREE ODDS to another player, and doing it RIGHT!

There are varying levels of how people talk about the game. I get many newbies of course. They know nothing. There are people that think they know, then forced me to emasculate them in front of their girlfriend and everyone else at the table. (Another story, I've told it before, but a lesson to beware the quiet guy trying to mind his own business.) There are those that know much but ask me to fill in the tough parts.

Then there was her! I key in when people start to explain to other players. Part to avoid wrong information spreading around my table. Part because I cannot help it, think the frog and the scorpion. She was describing it perfectly. Dealer level explanations. She made one mistake, confusing free odds on the 6/8 with place odds. I just say, "6:5" and she just says, "you're right!" and went on. I am still amazed. You have to remember, I live and love to have a player like this at the table as it takes pressure off me.

Oh, yeah, she could actually throw dice without looking like she was throwing out the first pitch.

Seriously, she had dealer level knowledge of the game in how it works, though I had no idea if she would know procedure. Lucky, this kind almost always hangs for a minute after everyone else leaves to thank me as a dealer, maybe ask where I learned, just a sort of professional courtesy.

Seems she just learned from her husband. Hopefully there are more like her out there.

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Fleastiff
October 16th, 2017 at 4:09:37 pm
Dealer level knowledge is a wonderful thing; I wish I had it.
Clear, concise and correct explanations are rare. Even a charity or private party game is not the place for anything but terse explanations, whether they come from a player or the busy dealer.

Maybe she will volunteer to be a shill at future events or a stand-by relief dealer if you are double booked.
AZDuffman
October 17th, 2017 at 3:16:14 am
A big problem on explaining is that once a game is moving it is hard to explain anything to new walk ups. More than once the game is banging to near casino level. Then a walk up wants to learn. Once two young women say, "can you teach us?" I say to squeeze in and learn. They got upset that I "did not teach them." I am thinking that they should be able to see I have 10+ people at a busy table and can't stop the game for a long explanation.

When it gets that busy I tell them to just play the PASS and watch. 99% of the time someone will give a hand. See, if they are at all attractive then they expect that the male dealer will drop everything for them. Normal people see someone attending to 10 people and understand.

I was in IIRC Canada and some oriental couple was wanting to learn a table game. Early evening and craps was fairly banging. They somehow got the attention of the pit boss and asked something because the pit boss just says, "This is a very complicated game, you probably want to learn on something easier." Yes, my job is to teach. But can't people be reasonable?
Wizard
October 17th, 2017 at 6:48:35 am
Did you short stick her?
AZDuffman
October 17th, 2017 at 4:25:45 pm
My stick ain't short!
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