Easter Is Coming in 8 Weeks
February 10th, 2015 at 3:33:37 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
There was no 'dilemma' until religion created one. Why can't you see that? They created the problem and the solution at the same time. Sin did not exist until a myth was created to 'prove' it. If you don't tell a person he's a sinner and breaking gods rules, he would never guess it in a hundred years. He's NOT breaking any rules, why would he think he was. To the godless, religion is so transparent. Like glass.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 10th, 2015 at 6:19:27 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | It's the height of blindness and downright offensive to look at the current situation of humanity and deny there is a problem. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
February 10th, 2015 at 7:29:41 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
You can say that for every snapshot of time throughout history. But we're advancing, things will continue to get better. Go back just 1000 years, you really want to live then instead of now? Average lifespan was 40, no medicine, no medical facilities, half of the kids died before the age of 5. People lived in unreal poverty, nobody bathed because they were superstitious, the Church ran Europe with an iron boot. Today would look like paradise to them. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 10th, 2015 at 8:32:13 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Fine, there has always been a problem and still is today. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
February 11th, 2015 at 12:01:21 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
It's just less and less severe. And always will be. Your job is to cater to the superstitious stragglers, they always need help. Keep the myth alive as long as possible for them. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
February 11th, 2015 at 5:46:23 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | We both realize that the problem with humanity is not a myth, whether it is less severe now or in what direction this problem is heading is up for debate, but let's stay clear that there is a problem and there always has been a problem. It is this problem I call original sin, you might have another name for it or explanation, but it is not a made up or invented problem. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
February 11th, 2015 at 7:14:09 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Yes it is. Humanity is not fallen, broken, etc. Humanity has climbed upwards from a wild animal stage (literally) to civilization, improving themselves over time. The improvement is not steady, and there are setbacks from time to time. This view is not just different from yours, it's the exact opposite. The views are mutually exclusive, too. They make us see things differently in almost every respect. For example, I regard marriage equality as a very positive step, as the realization that recognizing the rights of other people does no harm to anyone and it's the right and moral thing to do. You haven't expressed a view on this, but other Catholic officials have. Some Protestants have, too. You'd think letting two women marry each other is a harbinger of the Apocalypse, or worse. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
February 11th, 2015 at 8:14:57 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Why do we need to continue to climb upwards if we have not fallen? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
February 11th, 2015 at 8:15:08 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 | Oh, your view on Original Sin also means there is a target point for humanity to reach. I don't believe there is one. The future is wide open. We will become what we wish to become. I like to think current trends will continue, and we'll become more tolerant, more peaceful, less violent, more interested in leisure, more interested in learning, more interested in technology. Though some current trends, like doing away with privacy, are worrisome. In this you might say "aren't you setting a target?" the answer is simple: Yes, I am. but it's a target I'm choosing, not one arbitrarily set in a myth thousands of years ago. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
February 11th, 2015 at 8:15:53 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
As the scorpion told the turtle: it's our nature. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |