NBC sitcom''s last hope

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May 6th, 2017 at 10:24:28 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Sitcoms seem to be doing just as bad as ever at NBC, with the rare show, Superstore being renewed for more than 11 episodes.
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Still nothing even in the same orbit as The Big Bang Theory.


Update on NBC sitcoms.
It looks like Powerless will be the 35th straight NBC sitcom to be cancelled before enough episodes are produced to go into syndication.

Powerless: 9 episodes- pulled from schedule as ratings were horrible
Trial & Error: 13 episodes
The Good Place: 13 episodes and renewed
Carmichael Show: 19 episodes aired, 13 more episodes to air this summer
Superstore: 33 episodes aired, NBC renewed the series for a 22-episode third season.

Superstore may be the first NBC sitcom to make it to syndication since Parks and Recreation and Community in 2009

NBC is reviving an old sitcom out of desperation. You can imagine the salaries that these actors are getting
May 6th, 2017 at 1:31:03 PM permalink
Evenbob
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NBC is reviving an old sitcom out of desperation.]


Gag. That show was on 2 seasons too long,
they want it back? There are only so many
Gay jokes before the well is dry. They ran
out of them on Modern Family 2 seasons
ago. Plus, Gay just isn't that funny anymore.
It's passe and boring.
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May 7th, 2017 at 6:04:39 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Sean Saves the World was an American sitcom starring Sean Hayes (Jack in Will and Grace) from October 3, 2013, to March 24, 2014. Sean played a divorced gay father relating to his 14-year-old daughter. The show was cancelled after only 13 episodes aired.


Gee, wonder why it failed?!
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May 7th, 2017 at 9:59:24 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Gee, wonder why it failed?!

At sometime in September 2010, Wunderlich Securities analyst Matthew Harrigan, said that USA Network is the most valuable part of NBC Universal at $11.7 billion, but the NBC network is worth a negative $600 million. And this valuation was made at the beginning of the great collapse of new sitcoms.

Remember that NBC was almost built around sitcoms in the 1990's when they were airing as many as 17 at one time.
May 7th, 2017 at 10:24:10 AM permalink
Nareed
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If NBC wants back at the top of the sitcom ratings, all they have to do is hand over half their capital to Jerry Seinfeld to do another (the same) show.

I can picture the opening scene: Kramer's funeral.
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May 7th, 2017 at 11:45:50 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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If NBC wants back at the top of the sitcom ratings, all they have to do is hand over half their capital to Jerry Seinfeld to do another (the same) show.


It seems like that is the new strategy. It's not enough to bring the stars back of the old TV series, you have to bring back the original show. X-files, Will and Grace, and multiple streaming shows like Arrested Development, Gilmore Girls, Community, The Mindy Project , Full House, etc.
May 7th, 2017 at 11:48:41 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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It seems like that is the new strategy. It's not enough to bring the stars back of the old TV series, you have to bring back the original show. X-files, Will and Grace, and multiple streaming shows like Arrested Development, Gilmore Girls, Community, The Mindy Project , Full House, etc.


There is the possibility that after 60+ years of TV there are truly no original ideas for a network sitcom.
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May 7th, 2017 at 12:18:13 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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There is the possibility that after 60+ years of TV there are truly no original ideas for a network sitcom.


I don't know if originality matters as much as charm and wit. One of the few sitcoms that is staying on the air is named after one of the original sitcoms which came directly from vaudeville. The Goldberts just finished airing it's 93rd episode which means it will be syndicated next year.
May 7th, 2017 at 12:35:54 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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I don't know if originality matters as much as charm and wit.


It is about being entertaining. Networks keep forgetting that and go to either PC or "edgy."

One thing I would do if I had a network is bring back the "family hour." 8-9. No innuendo or any remote off-color at all. But write so that parent's don't get bored. Then take it back to 11 as you win one time slot after another. 9-10 a little more mainstream. 10-11, keep as-is.
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May 12th, 2017 at 1:42:40 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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It's looking like "Superstore" may be the first NBC sitcom to make it to syndication since Parks and Recreation They have 33 episodes and just renewed for another 22 episodes. This renewal happened despite the last two episodes drawing fewer than 3 million viewers.

The Networks may simply have to get used to the fact that nothing that they do will ever draw the massive audiences of the last decade. I wonder what the "Will and Grace" actors will be paid?


LAST NBC SITCOMS to run to syndication
Apr 9, 2009 to Feb 24, 2015 Parks and Recreation (125 episodes)
Sep 17, 2009 to Jun 2, 2015 Community (97 episodes)

NBC SITCOMS CANCELLED
  1. May 27, 2010 100 Questions 
  2. Sep 23, 2010 Outsourced 
  3. Jan 20, 2011 Perfect Couples 
  4. Apr 14, 2011 The Paul Reiser Show 
  5. Aug 05, 2011 Friends with Benefits 
  6. Sep 14, 2011 Free Agents 
  7. Sep 14, 2011 Up All Night 
  8. Sep 22, 2011 Whitney 
  9. Jan 11, 2012 Are You There, Chelsea? 
  10. Mar 21, 2012 Bent 
  11. Apr 04, 2012 Best Friends Forever 
  12. Aug 08, 2012 Go On 
  13. Aug 12, 2012 Animal Practice 
  14. Sep 10, 2012 The New Normal 
  15. Sep 11, 2012 Guys With Kids 
  16. Dec 17, 2012 1600 Penn 
  17. May 23, 2013 Save Me 
  18. Sep 26, 2013 The Michael J. Fox Show
  19. Oct 03, 2013 Welcome to the Family
  20. Oct 03, 2013 Sean Saves The World
  21. Feb 22, 2014 About a Boy
  22. Feb 23, 2014 Growing Up Fisher
  23. Mar 12, 2014 Working the Engels 
  24. Mar 21, 2014 Welcome to Sweden
  25. May 29, 2014 Undateable
  26. Oct 02, 2014 A to Z 
  27. Oct 02, 2014 Bad Judge 
  28. Oct 14, 2014 Marry Me
  29. Mar 17, 2015 One Big Happy
  30. Aug 05, 2015 Mr. Robinson
  31. Oct 16, 2015 Truth Be Told
  32. Dec 07, 2015 Telenovela
  33. Mar 15, 2016 Crowded
  34. Feb 02, 2017 Powerless
    ===================================== Not Cancelled yet
  35. Aug 26, 2015 The Carmichael Show
  36. Nov 30, 2015 Superstore
  37. Sep 19, 2016 The Good Place
  38. Mar 14, 2017 Trial and Error (might get cancelled)
  39. Apr 25, 2017 Great News
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