President Obama foreign travel very different from Bush

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May 20th, 2017 at 11:16:29 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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The first transatlantic Trip of the last three President's was motivated by the NATO summit. I think the side trips says a lot about the President's view of the world.

Trump is visiting three religious centers. GW Bush concentrated on extremes of Europe (South, North, and East). Obamas trip was a mixed bag, but Turkey was a priority

Trump First Translatlantic Trip
May 20–22, 2017 Saudi Arabia Riyadh Will meet with Muslim leaders.
May 22–23, 2017 Israel Jerusalem Will visit Israel and later travel to the Palestinian Authority.
May 24, 2017 Vatican City Vatican City Will meet with Pope Francis.
May 24–25, 2017 Belgium Brussels Will attend the 28th NATO summit.
May 26–27, 2017 Italy Taormina Will attend the 43rd G7 summit.

Obama First Transatlantic Trip
March 31 – April 3, 2009 United Kingdom London Attended the G-20 summit. Met with Queen Elizabeth II
April 3–4, 2009 France Germany Strasbourg,Baden-Baden, Kehl Attended the NATO Summit Meeting.
April 4–5, 2009 Czech Republic Prague Attended the U.S.-EU Summit Meeting. Met with President Václav Klaus.
April 5–7, 2009 Turkey Ankara, Istanbul Met with President Abdullah Gül and Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.
April 7–8, 2009 Iraq Baghdad Met with President Jalal Talabani and Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. Visited with U.S. troops.

GW Bush First Transatlantic Trip
June 12–13, 2001 Spain Madrid Met with King Juan Carlos I and Prime Minister José María Aznar.
June 13–14, 2001 Belgium Brussels Attended the NATO summit meeting. Met with King Albert II and Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt.
June 14–15, 2001 Sweden Gothenburg Attended the U.S.-EU Summit Meeting. Met with King Carl XVI Gustaf .
June 15–16, 2001 Poland Warsaw State visit. Met with President Aleksander Kwaśniewski.
June 16, 2001 Slovenia Kranj Met with Prime Minister Janez Drnovšek and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Clinton did not go to Europe for almost a year
January 9–11, 1994 Belgium Brussels Attended the 13th NATO Summit Meeting. Met with King Albert II .
January 11–12, 1994 Czech Republic Prague Met with the Presidents and Prime Ministers of 4 Eastern Europe nations.
January 12, 1994 Ukraine Kiev Met with President Leonid Kravchuk.
January 12–15, 1994 Russia Moscow Met with President Boris Yeltsin and senior Russian officials.
January 15, 1994 Belarus Minsk Met with Chairman Stanislav Shushkevich.
January 15–16, 1994 Switzerland Geneva Met with Syrian President Hafez al-Assad.


George Bush Sr stuck to Western Europe
May 26–28, 1989 Italy Rome,Nettuno Met with President Francesco Cossiga and Prime Minister Ciriaco De Mita.
May 27, 1989 Vatican City Apostolic Palice Audience with Pope John Paul II.
May 28–30, 1989 Belgium Brussels Attended the NATO Summit Meeting.
May 30–31, 1989 West Germany Bonn,Mainz Met with Chancellor Helmut Kohl.
May 31 – June 2, 1989 United Kingdom London Met with Queen Elizabeth II and Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.


Every POTUS since FDR has made a tour of Europe while President. The only exception was LBJ who only went to Europe twice. Once for a funeral, and the second time for secret talks with the pope about his ultimately unsuccessful plan to end the Vietnam war.

April 23–26, 1967 West Germany Bonn Attended the funeral of Chancellor Konrad Adenauer
December 23, 1967 Italy Rome Met with President Giuseppe Saragat and Prime Minister Aldo Moro.
December 23, 1967 Vatican City Apostolic Palace Audience with Pope Paul VI.
May 20th, 2017 at 11:55:27 AM permalink
Nareed
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You know, no Air Force One has ever been involved in a fatal crash.

But one is bound to happen eventually.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
May 20th, 2017 at 12:35:50 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Best thing about this trip, Trump doesn't
require foreign leaders to drop their
pants so he can profusely kiss their asses
and apologize for whatever we're supposed
to have done to offend them. What a tool
Obama was..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 21st, 2017 at 11:04:31 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: Wizard
Not sure if I should count Denmark, as I've only been to the airport making a connection between Iceland and Germany.


If you went through customs I would say yes. If not I would say no. I have the same dilemma with Helsinki, Finland.
May 21st, 2017 at 11:35:37 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Trump is looking and acting 10 times more
presidential than Obama ever did. And they
love him. Too bad he'll be impeached as
soon as he returns for what he did with the
Russians. (snicker)
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 21st, 2017 at 2:31:38 PM permalink
ams288
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Donald made a mistake in his teleprompter speech, and the WH's explanation for it was that he's "exhausted."

But tell me again about how he's got so much stamina.... LOL
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May 21st, 2017 at 2:43:57 PM permalink
Dalex64
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I was just thinking about his hypocrisy in not saying radical Islamic terrorism in his recent speeches when it came up in my news feed.

https://www.apnews.com/5d4c6e9699974e7fa89d173a41d91c39

Also talks about the headscarf hypocrisy, charitable donations, and Islamic hatred of us.
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May 21st, 2017 at 5:57:32 PM permalink
ams288
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Should we have a caption contest???

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May 21st, 2017 at 6:28:27 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: Evenbob
Trump is looking and acting 10 times more
presidential than Obama ever did. And they
love him.


And they love him?

May 21st, 2017 at 7:14:13 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: reno
Quote: Evenbob
Trump is looking and acting 10 times more
presidential than Obama ever did. And they
love him.

And they love him?


He's in the bubble. He said Donald was "beloved" a while back. Truly delusional. Or just trolling. Either way, just ignore him.
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