Foreign born as a percentage of population

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March 31st, 2017 at 11:07:17 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Of the major economic powers, Japan tolerates very little immigration

1 in xx.xx is foreign born
>100 Mexico
61.8 Japan
21.0 Argentina
12.3 Russia
10.3 Italy
8.3 France
7.9 Spain
7.6 United Kingdom
7.0 United States (official numbers)
6.7 Germany
6.0 Sweden
5.6 United States including estimated illegal immigrant population
4.6 Canada
4.1 Israel
3.6 Australia
3.4 Switzerland
2.6 Hong Kong

Foreign born in Switzerland is probably from other parts of europe. Hong Kong may come from other parts of China. I am not sure where Australian immigrants come from.
April 1st, 2017 at 12:53:14 AM permalink
Evenbob
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The Japanese consider themselves better than
the rest of the human race. They aren't big
on mixing the genes of the perfect race with
the inferior genes of the rest of the world.

The are an amazing people. They went from
being a backwards feudal country to being a
world power in the 1930's in a remarkably
short time. They are very fast learners.

If the Jewish people and the Japanese ever
got together, their offspring would rule the
world in brainpower.
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April 1st, 2017 at 4:27:32 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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One thing about the Japanese is they preach that you have to accept your position and deal with it instead of whining about it. This is why they survive natural disaster after natural disaster. They pick up and keep going. Same after WWII, the country was flattened, the people starving. The picked up and started over.

They have really nothing in natural resources, so they must trade to get what they need.

You have to admire all of that.
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April 1st, 2017 at 12:52:45 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
One thing about the Japanese is they preach that you have to accept your position and deal with it instead of whining about it.


Very disciplined people. At one time they
had no prisons because there was so little
crime. The reason was, if you were convicted
of a crime, any crime, murder or stealing a
loaf of bread, the punishment was immediate
death. And was that done by crucifixion for a very
long time. Crime was not really an option
unless you were a moron.
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April 1st, 2017 at 3:35:46 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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The part of that table that I thought was more interesting was the middle section. It seems like the great immigration debate is concentrated on these countries.

Foreign born are 1 in xx.x of each country
7.6 United Kingdom
7.0 United States (official numbers)
6.7 Germany
6.0 Sweden
5.6 United States including estimated illegal immigrant population
4.6 Canada
4.1 Israel
3.6 Australia

The percentage of foreign born are much higher in Canada and Australia, than the other countries on the list. But Canada and Australia seem to have less vitriolic public debate about their government policies towards immigration.

I'm not saying their are some Canadians who go to Toronto and feel bewildered. Certainly there are Australians paranoid about becoming an Asian nation. But by and large they don't seem to have massive political parties like they do in Britain.

Perhaps my viewpoint is warped by my exposure to US media.
April 2nd, 2017 at 5:24:58 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Pacomartin

I'm not saying their are some Canadians who go to Toronto and feel bewildered. Certainly there are Australians paranoid about becoming an Asian nation. But by and large they don't seem to have massive political parties like they do in Britain.

Perhaps my viewpoint is warped by my exposure to US media.


Exposure to US and lack of street level exposure in Canada/OZ. Canada especially tries to put on this "we love immigration" face. Yet get outside Toronto/Vancouver and it seems more like opinion here in the USA once you leave California.
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April 2nd, 2017 at 5:27:35 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Very disciplined people. At one time they
had no prisons because there was so little
crime. The reason was, if you were convicted
of a crime, any crime, murder or stealing a
loaf of bread, the punishment was immediate
death. And was that done by crucifixion for a very
long time. Crime was not really an option
unless you were a moron.


I was watching "Locked up Abroad" ("Banged up Abroad" for non-USA readers) and they had some girl got locked up there for I forget what. Part of the punishment was she had to sit Indian-style in her cell for hours a day and "think about her crime." Weird thing was she said it kind of worked.
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April 2nd, 2017 at 7:27:50 AM permalink
TheCesspit
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Quote: AZDuffman
Exposure to US and lack of street level exposure in Canada/OZ. Canada especially tries to put on this "we love immigration" face. Yet get outside Toronto/Vancouver and it seems more like opinion here in the USA once you leave California.


Are you often walking the streets of Regina and Saskatoon to get the opinions of the locals?
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April 2nd, 2017 at 1:24:50 PM permalink
TheCesspit
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To follow up, Vancouver/BC has a small anti-Chinese immigration movement. Richmond (just south of Vancouver) is known for being predominantly Chinese immigrants, and some of the malls in the area have signage only in Chinese. That's also true of some of the restaurants here as well.

In general, the First Nations are treated pretty badly (obviously they are the very opposite of immigrants). When Canadians tell you they aren't racist, ask someone from one of the First Nations about how they get treated (past and present).

The Conservative party has beaten the anti-immigration drum, and it is a subject spoken in the current leadership elections. Alberta is regarded as pretty anti non-white immigration in the press, but my general experience is that it's just the more conservative region of Canada, and isn't some hot bed of anti-multi-culturalism.

Toronto, by all reports, has the typical cultural tensions of a big city. A white nationalist francophone also killed six people in a Quebec city mosque in February 2017. But I don't live there, so can't really say much about how it works out there.

Canada does love immigration, as it's how it's grown over the last 100 years. Most cities, and many towns have immigrant populations, often from the same part of the world. I am one of those immigrants, and I'm glad Canada tends to welcome folks from around the world.

Canada does have more illegal aliens than is generally thought though, as recent reports suggest. I know of deportations, and have an American Acquaintance who was escorted back across the border after he out stayed his visa.
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April 2nd, 2017 at 4:54:51 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote:
I am one of those immigrants, and I'm glad Canada tends to welcome folks


Wow, immigration from one Brit
country to another, the culture
shock must have been horrifying.
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