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The Trump Impeachment Thread
| February 6th, 2020 at 12:54:50 AM permalink | |
| Shrek Member since: Aug 13, 2019 Threads: 6 Posts: 1635 |
Fixed that for you! 👍 |
| February 6th, 2020 at 4:42:27 AM permalink | |
| SOOPOO Member since: Feb 19, 2014 Threads: 22 Posts: 4182 |
Not the same. Impeachment is a lower bar than conviction. His acquittal was not bipartisan in any way. It's probably the way the framers intended it to be. The crimes must be so obvious that even the party of the President must have a large number of Senators see it the way of the impeaching party. The Democrats failed of course. They convinced ONE Senator to impeach on one of the two articles. They needed 20 out of 53. No surprise. A partisan impeachment from the party that was going to impeach him no matter what. And a partisan acquittal from the party that was going to acquit him (virtually) no matter what. |
| February 6th, 2020 at 5:07:50 AM permalink | |
| Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 | At least Good Morning America can be on as my wake up noise now without me wanting to shoot myself in the head. I like Strahan, but I’m tired of 97% of it being about the Impeachment/Removal stuff. Really, I don’t know what I think should be on GMA. I’m only half watching it, but anything not related to politics is a start. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
| February 6th, 2020 at 7:05:52 AM permalink | |
| RonC Member since: Nov 7, 2012 Threads: 8 Posts: 2510 | The impeachment went much as it appears the framers intended. The House put together and presented a case to their members and voted to impeach (forever!). The Senate listened to the case presented by the managers and the defense team and voted to acquit (forever). The framers knew politics would come into play and set the bar for removal high enough that political impeachments would more than likely be rejected by the Senate. This was not a strong case for conviction and removal from office. Neither was the one against President Clinton. It would have been an interesting had Nixon decided to stay in office. Now we'll wait on the next set of Articles of Impeachment from the Congress. I am sure Schiff and Nadler are hard at it... |
| February 6th, 2020 at 7:14:45 AM permalink | |
| Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 | The writing was absolutely on the wall for Nixon, otherwise, I strongly believe he wouldn't have resigned. I have to think there were some backroom talks where many Senators said, "Look, Dick (nickname), we really have no choice here." "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
| February 6th, 2020 at 7:27:08 AM permalink | |
| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11818 | Interesting fact The 48 Senators that voted guilty represent 18 million more people then the 52 Senators that voted to acquit. Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
| February 6th, 2020 at 7:29:32 AM permalink | |
| Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
And 19 fewer than would be required to remove him from office. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
| February 6th, 2020 at 7:31:02 AM permalink | |
| ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12549 |
The tyranny of minority rule... “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
| February 6th, 2020 at 7:34:19 AM permalink | |
| Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
The same applies to the 2016 Election itself as neither candidate would have had the majority of the popular vote. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
| February 6th, 2020 at 7:52:55 AM permalink | |
| AcesAndEights Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 6 Posts: 351 |
Yes, that exact scenario happened. Known now as a "Goldwater moment" that never came to pass for Trump. Barry G and a couple others warned him that his support was evaporating in both bodies. https://www.azcentral.com/story/azdc/2014/08/03/goldwater-rhodes-nixon-resignation/13497493/ "You think I'm joking." -EvenBob |