2018 Oscars

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January 24th, 2018 at 7:28:36 AM permalink
Wizard
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I have seen zero of the pictures nominated for Best Picture.
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January 24th, 2018 at 8:59:53 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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I have seen zero of the pictures nominated for Best Picture.


Not surprising with only Dunkirk making top 20 worldwide, and Get Out making top 40.


2017 Picture Studio Domestic Box Office
Dunkirk Warner Bros. $188,045,546
Get Out Universal $175,686,870
The Post Fox $45,763,616
Darkest Hour Focus Features $41,085,957
Lady Bird A24 $39,167,960
Three Billboards Fox Searchlight $32,254,616
The Shape of Water Fox Searchlight $30,441,204
Call Me by Your Name Sony Classics $9,135,264
Phantom Thread Focus Features $6,385,599
Average Gross: $63,107,404

2016 Picture Studio Domestic Box Office
Hidden Figures Fox $169,607,287
La La Land Lionsgate/Summit $151,101,803
Arrival Paramount $100,546,139
Hacksaw Ridge Lionsgate $67,209,615
Fences Paramount $57,682,904
Lion Weinstein Company $51,738,905
Manchester by the Sea Roadside Attractions $47,695,371
Moonlight (2016) A24 $27,854,932
Hell or High Water Lionsgate $27,007,844
Average Gross: $77,827,200
January 24th, 2018 at 9:09:49 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Pacomartin
Not surprising with only Dunkirk making top 20 worldwide, and Get Out making top 40.


The only 2 I saw
I was disappointed in Dunkirk. Never got the breath of the this massive operation. Just a few survival stories.
I liked Get Out but I hardly think its best picture material.
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January 24th, 2018 at 10:01:47 AM permalink
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Quote: terapined
The only 2 I saw
I was disappointed in Dunkirk. Never got the breath of the this massive operation. Just a few survival stories.
I liked Get Out but I hardly think its best picture material.


Clearly it is a horse-race between "The Shape of Water" and "Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri". But they like to get some nominations for a few movies that people have seen since it makes the award show more interesting.

The last time a #1 film was nominated was 2014's "The Sniper" and the last #1 winner was 2003's "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"
January 24th, 2018 at 11:55:06 AM permalink
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Quote: Pacomartin
Clearly it is a horse-race between "The Shape of Water" and "Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri".


Those aren't the movies I most want not to see, but they're in the top ten.


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and the last #1 winner was 2003's "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"


That was the movie I most wanted not to see that year.
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January 24th, 2018 at 12:05:52 PM permalink
Mosca
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Oscar nominations get announced tomorrow morning.

This is shaping up to be one of those years where you know all the winners way in advance.

Best Supporting Actress: Allison Janney
Best Supporting Actor: Sam Rockwell
Best Actor: Gary Oldman
Best Actress: Frances McDormand

Best Picture will likely be Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. However, there does seem to be some liberal backlash forming against that movie.

The Shape of Water will probably get a ton of technical nominations.


I'm surprised at the backlash to Three Billboards. Yes, a lot of it was broadly drawn, but it was nevertheless worth the price of admission. It's hard to pack some of those themes into two hours.

We saw I, Tonya yesterday. Allison Janney was superb. I don't have much to compare her to, I didn't see any of the other nominees. But holy shit was she good.
January 24th, 2018 at 7:38:22 PM permalink
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Quote: ams28

This is shaping up to be one of those years where you know all the winners way in advance.

Best Supporting Actress: Allison Janney
Best Supporting Actor: Sam Rockwell
Best Actor: Gary Oldman
Best Actress: Frances McDormand

Best Picture will likely be Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. However, there does seem to be some liberal backlash forming against that movie.


I agree, except with the last part. According to the odds at TopBet, here are the favorites:

Best picture: Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri (-160)
Best actor: Gary Oldman (Darkest Hour) (-10000)
Best actress: Frances McDormand (Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri) (-2000)
Best director: Guillermo del Toro (The Shape of Water) (-300)
Best Supporting Actor: Sam Rockwell (Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri) (-425)
Best Supporting Actress: Allison Janney (I, Tonya) (-285)

So, four of the six categories do not have runaway favorites. This will make a terrible betting year. I don't advise betting on a favorite unless the odds are -500 or better. However, who wants to lay 100 to 1 on anything?
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January 25th, 2018 at 12:39:12 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Mosca
I'm surprised at the backlash to Three Billboards. Yes, a lot of it was broadly drawn, but it was nevertheless worth the price of admission. It's hard to pack some of those themes into two hours.


The Best Picture winner is so political that it may be affected by some liberal backlash. However, I don't think it will undermine Frances McDormand's chances of winning the Best Actress prize.

There have been only 13 actresses to complete the Triple Crown of Acting

Year Yrs Oscar Emmy Tony Total wins
Helen Hayes 1953 20 1933* 1953 1947 5
Ingrid Bergman 1960 15 1945* 1960 1947 6
Shirley Booth 1962 13 1953 1962 1949* 6
Rita Moreno 1977 15 1962* 1977 1975 4
M. Stapleton 1982 31 1982 1968 1951* 4
Anne Bancroft 1999 41 1963* 1999 1958 4
V. Redgrave 2003 25 1978* 1981 2003 4
Maggie Smith 2003 33 1970* 2003 1990 7
Ellen Burstyn 2009 34 1975* 2009 1975 4
Helen Mirren 2015 19 2007 1996* 2015 6
F. McDormand 2015 18 1997* 2015 2011 3
Jessica Lange 2016 33 1983* 2009 2016 6
Viola Davis 2017 16 2017 2015 2001* 4
January 25th, 2018 at 1:21:03 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: Wizard
I have seen zero of the pictures nominated for Best Picture.
Seen them? Usually I've never even heard of them.

"Get Out" not being Best Picture material? So what? Its how many blacks will be voting and how many of the whites who vote will join the groundswell of blackening Hollywood?

Breadth of Dunkirk rescue? How do you convey the breadth of a cryptographer making the discovery of the need for evacuation? How do you convey the breadth of crossing the short, choppy seas of the English channel in a flat bottomed boat? What is the breadth of a breakdown in military discipline?
The breadth of practicality can be conveyed by "England needs soldiers, not hospital patients" but I doubt that was conveyed at all,.
March 3rd, 2018 at 10:55:48 PM permalink
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I saw "The Shape of Water" since it is the frontrunner for Best Picture. Frankly, I liked Pan's Labrinth better. Sally Hawkins is magnificent, as always, in a role as a mute.

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