Seinfeld fans

Quote: rxwine

Wondering how long it will take Seinfeld to appear as aged as "I love Lucy" episodes. Or some other comedy series.

Maybe it already does if you're 15.

I like to look at the differences between shows that overlap.

"Bewitched" aired form 1964-1972. "All in the Family" aired (including "Archie Bunker's Place) from 1971-1983. Both were popular yet look how old "Bewitched" must have felt when AITF hit the air.

"Cheers" aired from 1982-1993. Same thing. AITF looks ancient in production quality side by side.

"Seinfeld" overlaps more, hitting the air in 1989. But look at it beside "Cheers." "Cheers" instantly feels early-1980s compared to how crisp "Seinfeld" looked.

What the kids today do not get most is the water-cooler effect. Jerry has been gone for 17 years, meaning college freshmen were barely alive when it ended. While "Friends" lasted several more years, it was not quite the same. Never again will there be such a show that if you do not watch on Thursday you are out of the loop Friday morning. DVR had barely started. It was an event. No longer.

What makes me feel old is you drop a "Seinfeld" gag that back in the day everyone knew and they are like, "is that from a TV show or something?"

Time moves on.

Quote: AZDuffman

"Seinfeld" overlaps more, hitting the air in 1989. But look at it beside "Cheers." "Cheers" instantly feels early-1980s compared to how crisp "Seinfeld" looked.

The two shows are very closely related. Seinfeld finished it's third season on Wednesday night ranked #42 of all shows. He is, of course, grateful to simply be on the air as they have only 40 episodes since there were only a paltry 5 and 12 episodes in the first two seasons. But his ratings are still below that of NBC's "Blossom".
The first of the episodes that people start to learn by heart is aired

Cheers was NBCs biggest hit show, ranked #4 over all behind 60 minutes, Murphy Brown and Roseanne on other networks. Cosby is starting to drift lower is already down to #18 and has decided to end the show.

The next season Ted Danson drops the bombshell on NBC and announces he is ready to join Cosby and move on to greener pastures. As "A Different World" is closely linked to Cosby, it is on it's last legs as well. Jerry Seinfeld is shocked when he finds out that in one season he has gone from barely being renewed to be expected to be the heir to Thursday nights. But his fifth from last show on Wednesdays is "The Contest" and the show's place in water cooler history is now secure for all eternity.

He is moved from Wednesdays to Thurdays and starts beating Cheers on some nights. He is #1 for the remainder of the run, and Jerry Seinfeld begins to move into the multi millionaire status.

Seinfeld was worth 800mil in 2011 and
is estimated at over a billion now. On
the last year the show was on he was
offered 5mil an ep to do one more
season and turned it down. Larry David
is worth close to 1 bil. It's interesting
the big stars like Brad Pitt, Leonardo,
Travolta, Julia Roberts, Will Smith, are
'only' worth 150-200 mil. Seinfeld has
46 Porches.

Quote: Evenbob

Seinfeld was worth 800mil in 2011 and is estimated at over a billion now.

Forbes list of billionaires for 2015, only had Oprah Winfrey as the sole billionaire (out of 76 media billionaires) who spent most of her life in front of the camera. Jerry Seinfeld is always believed to make the list someday.

Harry Potter made $7.72 billion on 8 movies, it doesn't seem to have created a billionaire. Probably JK Rowling came closest.
The five movies featuring Iron Man have made $5.34 billion worldwide, but Robert Downy is worth less than $1/4 billion. It is possible that given another 5 films, plus his other franchises like Sherlock Holmes, he may end up a billionaire.


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Quote: rxwine

Wondering how long it will take Seinfeld to appear as aged as "I love Lucy" episodes. Or some other comedy series.

When we finally get holographic TV and everything flat looks as old as cave paintings?

Quote: Nareed

When we finally get holographic TV and everything flat looks as old as cave paintings?

It's not just age, because the Goldbergs were on at the same time as I Love Lucy, and people wouldn't really watch it today.Critics say the show is great, but it seems so dated and technically obsolete.

Quote: Pacomartin

It's not just age, because the Goldbergs were on at the same time as I Love Lucy, and people wouldn't really watch it today.Critics say the show is great, but it seems so dated and technically obsolete.

A great many shows are dated in many ways. If you watch the first several seasons of the original "Law & Order," for instance, you'll get to see cops using payphones. Not to mention court rooms without visible computers anywhere.

But you know what I find really odd? Stories and movies set in the second half of the XIX century. It's almost a distorted version of today. I mean, there are many similarities, but they're all off in some way.

For instance, there is artificial home and street illumination, but using gas. There's mass transit and cabs, but with horse-drawn contraptions. There is long distance communication, but mostly through Morse-code telegraph. There is long distance travel between cities, but only through railroads. There is relatively safe transatlantic and even transpacific ocean travel, but in coal-powered ships. Newspapers have pictures, but these are wood-cut engravings rather than photographs or graphic illustrations. And everyone seems to be over-dressed.

I thought Paco meant dated in the techniques and methods used in the media itself, not the surroundings. You can view Law and order in the early 90's a historical piece. What matters is if the story and media itself feels dated, or is it still a story that works. The Goldbergs above is highly dated and very naive. Then again, it feels like watching 'Whose the Boss?' and other 80's saccarine sitcoms. Compare to the Honeymooners as well. That has the same sort of -feel- but the jokes and stories still work.

"I love Lucy" still works as a comedy. A goofy and simple comedy.

There's probably a good reason I don't really remember the worst and most dated comedy sitcoms. But I remember watching some, that I remember not liking much (but nothing else was on)

Quote: rxwine

But I remember watching some, that I remember not liking much (but nothing else was on)

More than one sitcom got viewers because of that.