Should Trans People be allowed to use opposite sex bathrooms?

Quote: Gandler

I have zero trouble with reality (I posted this opinion after actually researching the alleged incident after all of these years.) I am happy to see citations for what you claim. But, almost none of that is true (or at best highly disputed.)

But, I will do one better, let's assume this post is 100% factual (it is not.)

A. Kids frequently get transferred when there is drama or conflict (justified or not), this means almost nothing.

B. Not having any idea if the alleged offender is trans is kind of a big deal when the main part of your argument is using the incident to claim how dangerous trans people are. This is like talking about "black violent crime stats" and then only citing a white serial killer as a major talking point for years.... If you are claiming that this shows how dangerous trans being are, him actually being trans or not, is literally the only thing that matters.

C. Neither of these points are relevant to the father's arrest. He was behaving improperly and did not leave the meeting when instructed. Even if his daughter was raped and murdered (she was not), he would have had to be removed from the meeting. The truth of the claim is irrelevant to his behavior at the meeting (though his story was either untrue or even being hyper generous, greatly exaggerated). And, before you say this is insensitive, go to your next city council meeting, half the people there will be there because a relative died whether by crime, improper care, or because of driving conditions or whatever, when people start screaming out of turn they get removed (and these are people who actually lost somebody.) Though the fact that the incident may have not even occurred in this case, does make a difference.

D. If he was not trans, and you shift to saying well he was a straight-cis guy, but he was using a loophole that only exists because of trans people, to stalk a girl in the bathroom is equally absurd (I have a feeling this is the next shift.) Nobody who is a serial rapist/abuser is suddenly going to stop their actions because, "well I guess I am not allowed in that room too bad....."

Quote: kenarman

Is US Today an acceptable source or are still going to continue using your opinion as truth.

"WASHINGTON — Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin granted a pardon on Friday to a man convicted in 2021 on charges related to an incident at a school board meeting that took place after his daughter was sexually assaulted in a bathroom at her high school.

Scott Smith was charged with obstruction of justice and disorderly conduct after his confrontation in June 2021 with a community member who allegedly “threatened to spread false and malicious information” about Smith’s business “with the intent to damage his reputation,” according to the pardon."

Quote: odiousgambit

Well, you know, back in days of yore when I was coming up we had something called "investigative reporters" who would get to the bottom of this

It's inexcusable that the facts of this matter are all in dispute. There hasn't been enough time? Wrong! This thing should have been well covered well before Youngkin pardoned this guy. I suspect the media, fearing they would make this guy a hero and hating the idea, just wanted it all to go away and in fact don't care if girls get assaulted as long as their favorite movement of the day doesn't get besmirched

Quote: odiousgambit

Well, you know, back in days of yore when I was coming up we had something called "investigative reporters" who would get to the bottom of this

It's inexcusable that the facts of this matter are all in dispute. There hasn't been enough time? Wrong! This thing should have been well covered well before Youngkin pardoned this guy. I suspect the media, fearing they would make this guy a hero and hating the idea, just wanted it all to go away and in fact don't care if girls get assaulted as long as their favorite movement of the day doesn't get besmirched

Quote: ams288

Damn that pesky MSM for not being full of hateful bigots!

Quote: kenarman

You don't consider US Today MSM?

Quote: ams288

I don’t really consider anything to be MSM.

Whenever I bring up the MSM, you can be sure I’m just mocking the idiots who blame all of their side’s political failings on it.

Quote: kenarman

Is US Today an acceptable source or are still going to continue using your opinion as truth.

"WASHINGTON — Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin granted a pardon on Friday to a man convicted in 2021 on charges related to an incident at a school board meeting that took place after his daughter was sexually assaulted in a bathroom at her high school.

Scott Smith was charged with obstruction of justice and disorderly conduct after his confrontation in June 2021 with a community member who allegedly “threatened to spread false and malicious information” about Smith’s business “with the intent to damage his reputation,” according to the pardon."

Quote: Gandler

2. Whatever happened or did not happen to his daughter has zero relevance to trans issues.

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(and the kid was not trans.)