Things that are overpriced

Quote: AZDuffman

Obesity is none of the government's business or problem.

So just remove the tobacco tax.

Quote: DoubleGold

So just remove the tobacco tax.

I mean if you are paying 1.64 USD a pack for premium cigs, your tobacco tax is basically nothing (compared to the U.S). Can you get a pack for under a dollar (discount brands)?

That being said, I am no defender of sin taxes, so I am all for removing it (I think it hurts the poor, starts black markets, forces states to rely on the revenue from immoral/unsafe products causing a loop of secretly wanting to expand the use of said products, etc.... ) So, I am all for removing tobacco taxes.

Quote: Gandler

I mean if you are paying 1.64 USD a pack for premium cigs, your tobacco tax is basically nothing (compared to the U.S). Can you get a pack for under a dollar (discount brands)?

That being said, I am no defender of sin taxes, so I am all for removing it (I think it hurts the poor, starts black markets, forces states to rely on the revenue from immoral/unsafe products causing a loop of secretly wanting to expand the use of said products, etc.... ) So, I am all for removing tobacco taxes.

I figured you were getting the shaft too.

I was only making a point.


I'm not sure what the cheap brands sell for.

I'll see what I can find out.

Quote: Gandler

I mean if you are paying 1.64 USD a pack for premium cigs, your tobacco tax is basically nothing (compared to the U.S). Can you get a pack for under a dollar (discount brands)?

That being said, I am no defender of sin taxes, so I am all for removing it (I think it hurts the poor, starts black markets, forces states to rely on the revenue from immoral/unsafe products causing a loop of secretly wanting to expand the use of said products, etc.... ) So, I am all for removing tobacco taxes.

Hell no
Keep the tobacco taxes
I'm not paying those taxes
Smokers disgust me with their constant littering
They lower the quality of life for everyone
Make em pay

Quote: terapined

Hell no
Keep the tobacco taxes
I'm not paying those taxes
Smokers disgust me with their constant littering
They lower the quality of life for everyone
Make em pay

Kinda like the smell of weed everywhere.

Quote: terapined

Hell no
Keep the tobacco taxes
I'm not paying those taxes
Smokers disgust me with their constant littering
They lower the quality of life for everyone
Make em pay

I agree that the littering from many smokers is unacceptable. But, my view is enforce littering laws against smokers and fine them. Tobacco taxes will not solve littering.

I have a whole list of things that disgust me that should not be taxed.

Quote: DoubleGold

So just remove the tobacco tax.

Lots of calories in cigarettes?

Quote: AZDuffman

Lots of calories in cigarettes?

Calories are the issue.

Not that tobacco is good because it has low or no calories.



Can't continue to discriminate against a group of persons for behavioral health reasons and then not discriminate against another group for behavioral health reasons.

Last time I flew I had to weigh my luggage.

One bag was under the extra fee threshold and one was over.

So I had to open each bag and transfer items from the heavy bag to the lighter bag.

The policy should be to take the average weight per bag and compare it to the extra fee threshold per bag.


Apparently, it cost more fuel to fly more weight, possibly because of gravity.


So why don't they weigh persons before a flight?

Because that would be discrimination.


It's OK to discriminate as long as it's not me.



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Here's an example of a jet flight:


A petite lady weighing 100 pounds has five bags, four of which may or may not be over the weight limit.

She brings one bag onto the plane included in the price of the ticket.


Then an obese man weighing 350 pounds, has one bag and takes it onto the plane included in the price of the ticket.


The same overall weight is flown for each person, including baggage weight and personal weight, yet the lady pays much more.

The lady is financially penalized (reverse discrimination) for not being obese.



That system is not sustainable.

It lets me know the folks making the bag policy are likely obese.

But worse than that, they're likely prejudice.

Quote: DoubleGold

Can't continue to discriminate against a group of persons for behavioral health reasons and then not discriminate against another group for behavioral health reasons.

Sure you can. Happens all the time.

But the real thing on obesity is WHO CARES? I will watch my own weight thank you very much. I do not want some 1984 system where the government decides what is healthy and what is not then taxes me to the "right" decisions. Taxing some food because some politician thinks too many people are fat sounds kind of North Koreaish to me.