DeSantis: the real deal?

October 14th, 2022 at 9:14:34 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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WTF
"out of state" WTF. Do you know what you are talking about???????????????????
This is transportation from Texas to MA.
Desantis pays for a plane of asylum seekers in TEXAS to fly them out of TEXAS to another state like MA because of hate.
It was hatred for the politicians in MA
This is politics based on hate.
Desantis picked MA because he hates their politicians and voters.
How is this saving Florida money??????????????????
These are people in TEXAS
What planet do you live on where it's OK for a Governor to orchestrate airline travel for out of state Venezuelan asylum-seekers to another destination out of state.
This is not governing Florida.
This is a situation totally outside the scope of governing FL.
It's an out of state political stunt wasting Florida's tax dollars in a situation Florida should not be involved in.
I thought you were a fiscal conservative


I thought the illegals had already arrived in Florida, and were then shipped to Massachusetts. If they never set foot in Florida I’ll agree with you Florida tax dollars should not have been spent to move the illegals directly from Texas to Massachusetts. It is still overall better for the country as it hammers home to the ‘sanctuary states’ what a problem even a hundred illegals are. Adam’s wants BILLIONS to help with the few hundred he has now. How much should the governor of Texas be given for the hundreds of thousands that crossed this year?
October 15th, 2022 at 6:11:41 AM permalink
DRich
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I’d also bet there’s more republican business owners hiring illegals than democrats, or if not no measurable difference.


I would agree with that because I assume more business owners are registered as republicans.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent.
October 15th, 2022 at 7:36:50 AM permalink
kenarman
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I’d also bet there’s more republican business owners hiring illegals than democrats, or if not no measurable difference.


That is probably true. Republicans like to use their own money to pay people when they work for them. Democrats want to pay people to stay home, do drugs and play video games. They want to pay them with someone else's money.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
October 15th, 2022 at 8:19:26 AM permalink
rquiredusername
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That is probably true. Republicans like to use their own money to pay people when they work for them. Democrats want to pay people to stay home, do drugs and play video games. They want to pay them with someone else's money.


Do you believe in all that red/blue mishmash?
October 15th, 2022 at 9:36:38 AM permalink
kenarman
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Do you believe in all that red/blue mishmash?


What part of that statement do find untrue?
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
October 15th, 2022 at 10:07:15 AM permalink
rquiredusername
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What part of that statement do find untrue?


Basically the entire thing. Borrow it, if it doesn’t work just declare bankruptcy is also using other peoples money.

Theoretically borrowing others money to open business creates more money/jobs….usually a bunch of self righteous nonsense tho. Like if you open up a restaurant the amount of money spent on dining in the city isn’t really going up or creating more total jobs if the demand is the same it’s just spread differently. Same thing as money going to social safety nets theoretically a hand up but mostly just diverted to paying nonprofit admins salaries.
October 15th, 2022 at 1:54:43 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Like if you open up a restaurant the amount of money spent on dining in the city isn’t really going up or creating more total jobs if the demand is the same it’s just spread differently.


If that was the case then the economy would never grow.

By your logic, theoretically the Flamingo did not need to be build in 1946 because spending on gambling would not go up it would just be spread out. Except that is not what happened, a new industry was born. Likewise McDonald's did not expand people dining out, it just redistributed it. However, we can easily see that it did expand dining.
The President is a fink.
October 15th, 2022 at 2:50:46 PM permalink
rquiredusername
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If that was the case then the economy would never grow.

By your logic, theoretically the Flamingo did not need to be build in 1946 because spending on gambling would not go up it would just be spread out. Except that is not what happened, a new industry was born. Likewise McDonald's did not expand people dining out, it just redistributed it. However, we can easily see that it did expand dining.


There are exceptions to every rule, and doing something truly different than competing in what’s already established is an exception.

The existence of McDonald’s and expansion of fast food was most definitely not a positive development for the US overall. Quite interesting that the two examples you bring up are industries that are mostly destructive in nature. Yes people are responsible for their own actions but I’m not going to pretend that McDonald’s and casinos are assets to the communities they “serve.”

Interestingly just looking at year over year inflation and GDP growth since 1990, inflation has outpaced GDP growth in the US in that timeframe. So has our economy actually grown in real terms in that time or does our economy function closer to a Ponzi scheme, bailing out big business and the markets when “needed”?
October 15th, 2022 at 3:52:14 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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There are exceptions to every rule, and doing something truly different than competing in what’s already established is an exception.

The existence of McDonald’s and expansion of fast food was most definitely not a positive development for the US overall. Quite interesting that the two examples you bring up are industries that are mostly destructive in nature. Yes people are responsible for their own actions but I’m not going to pretend that McDonald’s and casinos are assets to the communities they “serve.”

Interestingly just looking at year over year inflation and GDP growth since 1990, inflation has outpaced GDP growth in the US in that timeframe. So has our economy actually grown in real terms in that time or does our economy function closer to a Ponzi scheme, bailing out big business and the markets when “needed”?


Fast food not a positive thing? Made many millionaires and gives millions daily a quick and affordable meal. Sounds like good things to me.
The President is a fink.
October 15th, 2022 at 3:57:44 PM permalink
rquiredusername
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Now do the effect of fast food on healthcare…..most of the people getting the quick affordable meal would be better off skipping that meal.

Made millionaires. You frame it like those business owners aren’t capable of making money without selling poison.