In the News II

November 22nd, 2023 at 8:13:31 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: SOOPOO
I TOTALLY. ‘Get it’. If the $217 million is collected through taxes/tolls/fees for that ‘special district’, I want them to lower those taxes/tolls/fees INSTEAD of HAVING that $217 million to waste on the nets for that one bridge. How come you can’t ‘get’ that!

And to correct what Kenarman wrote…. 30 less suicides per year at the GGB is NOT 30 less suicides per year. It is 30 more suicides per year at other bridges, buildings, methods. IT IS NOT THE EXISTENCE OF THE GGB that is leading to these suicides!!!!!!


So says the admitted non-expert in public health.
November 22nd, 2023 at 8:33:56 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: Gandler
You guys simply do not understand how special districts work. They can only spend money on one bridge. It is the Golden Gate Bridge Special District, spending money on one bridge is literally their job. A special district for a specific bridge cannot spend money on "society."


The special district shouldn't be collecting that much money. Reduce the tolls and collect the same amount a different way that doesn't have strings attached. You seem to think that if the government puts their money in different pockets it makes a difference. It is all the peoples money no matter which pocket it is in.
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November 22nd, 2023 at 11:35:51 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: kenarman
The special district shouldn't be collecting that much money. Reduce the tolls and collect the same amount a different way that doesn't have strings attached. You seem to think that if the government puts their money in different pockets it makes a difference. It is all the peoples money no matter which pocket it is in.


Liberals just don’t understand what you are simply saying.

As far as childish Geno comment on me not being an expert on public health, I mentioned it only in case someone misinterpreted my ‘doctor’ experience as making me an expert on anything other than my specialty, anesthesiology (and pain management). Although not an expert on many things, I feel competent to discuss these issues on this hodgepodge of a forum. Having read your (Geno) posts, I now can unequivocally state I am more savvy about public health issues than you are. Feel free to attempt another one sentence post to try (and fail) to make yourself look knowledgeable. You aren’t fooling anyone here.
November 22nd, 2023 at 11:40:31 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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I actually logged on not to spat with Geno, but just to mention terror attack in my backyard. I was supposed to be 1/2 mile away at casino today, just friend canceled so didn’t go. No details available on the two terrorists (both died) but I’m sure we will find out. Entire border is closed in both directions, at all 4 bridges.
November 22nd, 2023 at 11:52:20 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: kenarman
The special district shouldn't be collecting that much money. Reduce the tolls and collect the same amount a different way that doesn't have strings attached. You seem to think that if the government puts their money in different pockets it makes a difference. It is all the peoples money no matter which pocket it is in.


No, it is the special district's money. Again, you do not seem to understand how they work, which for you is acceptable because you are not a citizen. But, it is a complicated structure with restrictive rules.

You cannot just lower tolls, there is a whole process (that at this point is usually automated raises baked in -I am honestly not sure if that if the case with GG, but it probably is-) Special districts are very baked into State's governments, you can try to change them, but even if you are actually a citizen in the jurisdiction, you will fail. It is just how it is.
November 22nd, 2023 at 11:59:04 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: SOOPOO
Liberals just don’t understand what you are simply saying.

As far as childish Geno comment on me not being an expert on public health, I mentioned it only in case someone misinterpreted my ‘doctor’ experience as making me an expert on anything other than my specialty, anesthesiology (and pain management). Although not an expert on many things, I feel competent to discuss these issues on this hodgepodge of a forum. Having read your (Geno) posts, I now can unequivocally state I am more savvy about public health issues than you are. Feel free to attempt another one sentence post to try (and fail) to make yourself look knowledgeable. You aren’t fooling anyone here.


I do not doubt that you are a great Doctor and are very knowledgeable on many medical issues.

I do doubt that you have any idea on how special districts are structured in CA (sorry I guess I should specify CA meaning California, not Canada)...... Sorry (not an insult! -just my observation from all these posts about this random local topic the last three days.....) Either this is the case, or you are just playing dumb for a cheap jab at SF, either way is totally wrong!

In any case, it is nothing personal (from me), I just do not get why you guys are being so stubborn about a very specific topic that has a black and white answer (there is not even room for philosophy on such a topic...)
November 22nd, 2023 at 1:33:54 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: SOOPOO
I actually logged on not to spat with Geno, but just to mention terror attack in my backyard. I was supposed to be 1/2 mile away at casino today, just friend canceled so didn’t go. No details available on the two terrorists (both died) but I’m sure we will find out. Entire border is closed in both directions, at all 4 bridges.


Was it a terror attack or did people jump to conclusions too quickly?
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November 22nd, 2023 at 2:21:41 PM permalink
Tanko
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The car hit a barrier and went airborne before it exploded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keKS4m7Li9s&t=20s
November 22nd, 2023 at 2:35:43 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: SOOPOO
I actually logged on not to spat with Geno, but just to mention terror attack in my backyard. I was supposed to be 1/2 mile away at casino today, just friend canceled so didn’t go. No details available on the two terrorists (both died) but I’m sure we will find out. Entire border is closed in both directions, at all 4 bridges.


Fortunately it does not sound like it was a terror attack.
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November 22nd, 2023 at 3:17:54 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: ams288
Was it a terror attack or did people jump to conclusions too quickly?


As of right now it is ‘highly probable’ it is a terror attack. Someone sped up, drove the wrong way, and blew themselves up on an international bridge. Is it possible it’s something other than a terrorist attack, sure. But not likely.

Edit…. Seems like DRich has additional info that I don’t. I’ve been watching college basketball.