In the News II

Quote: GenoDRPh

Let's just say I'd be willing to put my MPH against your credentials, and we are not impressed with an MD who is against suicide prevention.

Who said I am against suicide prevention? I am against wasting taxpayer money. It’s not my fault you can’t understand that. Let me give you an example I think you can understand. Let’s say you took all people who report severe depression and keep them in straight jackets, with 24/7 monitoring. . That would decrease suicides. You like that idea? Or let’s divert funds from clean water initiatives to more suicide prevention initiatives. You for that as well? Or are you a liberal who thinks we should just print more money to pay for everything good?

Your degree has elevated you to an ivory Tower. Mine had me working in the real world.

"...the vehicle involved was a relatively new Bentley, and the two occupants of the car were from Western New York. Earlier in the day, the pair were at the Seneca Niagara Casino, the sources said. They were traveling at a high speed as they approached the bridge. Investigators are looking at the possibility that the driver had a medical incident or there was a malfunction with the vehicle."

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/accident-and-incident/fatal-rainbow-bridge-car-crash-explosion-niagara-falls/article_a891ea34-895a-11ee-9f03-8bf12b0ede79.html

Quote: missedhervee

"...the vehicle involved was a relatively new Bentley, and the two occupants of the car were from Western New York. Earlier in the day, the pair were at the Seneca Niagara Casino, the sources said. They were traveling at a high speed as they approached the bridge. Investigators are looking at the possibility that the driver had a medical incident or there was a malfunction with the vehicle."

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/accident-and-incident/fatal-rainbow-bridge-car-crash-explosion-niagara-falls/article_a891ea34-895a-11ee-9f03-8bf12b0ede79.html

Is that why there was a claim of no tag? (was it a paper/dealer tag that probably imploded when the car ignited?) If so that would answer that aspect. If they were an elderly couple that do not have a dashcam or livestream when they drive, we will probably never know for sure if that is the case.

With the suicides and the Golden Gate Bridge, I read 1400 folks were recorded as committing suicide from the Bridge.


There are about 100M folks in the USA with a BMI (Body Mass Index) ​over 30, classified as obese.

My BMI has been historically low in athletics (around 3.0) but likely higher now.

So I'm not a candidate to jump off a medicinal bridge.


One of the side effects of this obesity medicine, is suicide.

That could be why the Silicon Valley billionaires are closing the Bridge openings off.

Because up to 100 million folks are getting ready to lose weight the easy way.


If 1% of that total of 100 million considered committing suicide, or 1 million potential suicides, the billionaires should form a suicide line on the Bridge or close the openings.

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FDA Approves Lilly's Zepbound™ (tirzepatide) for Chronic Weight Management, a Powerful New Option for the Treatment of Obesity or Overweight with Weight-Related Medical Problems

November 8, 2023
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Zepbound may cause serious side effects, including:
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Depression or thoughts of suicide. You should pay attention to changes in your mood, behaviors, feelings or thoughts. Call your healthcare provider right away if you have any mental changes that are new, worse, or worry you.
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https://investor.lilly.com/news-releases/news-release-details/fda-approves-lillys-zepboundtm-tirzepatide-chronic-weight

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Quote: missedhervee

"...the vehicle involved was a relatively new Bentley, and the two occupants of the car were from Western New York. Earlier in the day, the pair were at the Seneca Niagara Casino, the sources said. They were traveling at a high speed as they approached the bridge. Investigators are looking at the possibility that the driver had a medical incident or there was a malfunction with the vehicle."

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/accident-and-incident/fatal-rainbow-bridge-car-crash-explosion-niagara-falls/article_a891ea34-895a-11ee-9f03-8bf12b0ede79.html

SOOPOO, is that the same casino you were supposed to be going to yesterday?

photo in NY Post re Rainbow bridge explosion

Quote: DoubleGold

One of the side effects of this obesity medicine, is suicide.

Lots of medications cause suicide idealization.

Adverse Event Reporting System:

'832 drugs, ranging from abacavir to zopiclone, were evaluated. The 832 drugs, as primary suspect drugs in a given adverse event, accounted for over 99.9% of recorded AERS. Suicidal ideations had a significant positive association with suicide attempts (p<.0001) and had an approximately 131-fold stronger magnitude of association than non-suicidal AERs, after adjusting for drug class, gender, and age.'

The cost of medical insurance will increase more than usual in 2024, due to the popularity of expensive weight loss drugs. This is going to be especially hard on small business and the self-insured.

"Boom in weight-loss drugs to drive up US employers' medical costs in 2024"

Quote: GenoDRPh

Let's just say I'd be willing to put my MPH against your credentials, and we are not impressed with an MD who is against suicide prevention.

Probably not surprising, but I am against suicide prevention for adults. If someone wants to die I don't see any point in preventing that.

Quote: ams288

SOOPOO, is that the same casino you were supposed to be going to yesterday?

. Yes. I go there now probably 2-3 times a month.

Quote: DRich

Probably not surprising, but I am against suicide prevention for adults. If someone wants to die I don't see any point in preventing that.

I’m not sure if you really mean that exactly…. Are you against having let’s say, a phone hotline where a 19 year old considering suicide can talk to a suicide prevention counselor? Are you against a psychiatrist prescribing meds which will decrease the chance of an 18 year old taking her life?

I think you mean that if someone has decided to take their own life they should not be PREVENTED from doing so. Offering alternatives is reasonable to me.

Did I state how you feel correctly?