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The three Persian Gulf airlines
| May 9th, 2014 at 12:10:41 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Emirates, Qatar Airlines, and Etihad -- shocked the Western-dominated airline industry at the Dubai Airshow last year when they collectively announced they would be purchasing 355 new wide-body aircraft worth an astounding $160 billion. The record-smashing order included a mix of both Airbus and Boeing (BA) products and would ensure that they could eventually crush their U.S. and European counterparts in terms of efficiency, comfort, and luxury. United has 160 wide body aircraft with up to 55 on order, but mostly to replace the older jets. The strategy seem to be to offer more economy seats than any US airline (up to 470 seats) which will pay for basic costs like fuel. The second prong of their strategy is to offer business class seats at comparable or even cheaper rates than their competition, but with far more luxury and space. The third prong seems to be to compete directly with the charter jets with "The Residence" The Residence will have a private butler, and cost $40K for two people (one way). Business class |
| May 10th, 2014 at 7:34:58 AM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
In which routes? Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| May 10th, 2014 at 3:18:34 PM permalink | |
| Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | I'm sure they will take delivery of the first several planes as configured for them but eventually there will some a point where they have locked up the delivery dates for the remaining planes and frozen others out of the delivery que. Then watch for concession demands and a secondary market in trading delivery dates to other airlines. |
| May 10th, 2014 at 5:22:09 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Each of the three airlines has one route to Latin America (Sao Paulo & Buenos Aires ). I don't know if they will expand to more places in Latin America, but probably not the highest priority. They want to get the passengers from USA that are going to London and Tokyo bound for other Asian cities. In January of 2014 the 7 busiest airports were 1. China Beijing Capital International Airport Chaoyang, Beijing, China PEK/ZBAA 7,060,527 2. United States Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport Atlanta, Georgia, United States ATL/KATL 6,779,582 3. United Arab Emirates Dubai International Airport Garhoud, Dubai, United Arab Emirates DXB/OMDB 6,400,706 4. United States Los Angeles International Airport Los Angeles, California, United States LAX/KLAX 5,419,015 5. Japan Tokyo International Airport Ōta, Tokyo, Japan HND/RJTT 5,408,046 6. United Kingdom Heathrow Airport Hillingdon, London, United Kingdom LHR/EGLL 5,387,073 7. Hong Kong Hong Kong International Airport Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong, China HKG/VHHH 5,115,000 12. Paris 19. Frankfurt 23. Amsterdam 24. São Paulo So Asian and Middle Eastern Airports are starting to dominate world airline travel. |
| May 10th, 2014 at 5:33:42 PM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18211 |
For over 10 years Dubai has seen itself and tried to build their airport as a crossroads of the world. They say the concourses are as busy at 3:00 AM as 3:00 PM. Asia has always been long-haul flights. Dense populations and long distances will keep Asia building. The question will be how long can BA and Airbus keep their duopoly without an Asian builder enters the market. The President is a fink. |
| May 11th, 2014 at 5:05:56 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
In the 1970's Bahrain thought it would be the crossroads between Europe and Asia. The Concorde landed there for several years as supersersonic way station from London to Hong Kong.  It does seem crazy to be building all these huge airports so close to each other in such a sparsely populated region. Dhabi Intl Arpt, Abu Dhabi, AE (AUH) to King Khaled Intl, Riyadh, SA (RUH) 498 miles Muharraq Arpt, Bahrain, BH (BAH) to Dubai Intl Arpt, Dubai, AE (DXB) is 310 miles. Dhabi Intl Arpt, Abu Dhabi, AE (AUH) to Doha Airport, Doha, QA (DOH)is 202 miles Dhabi Intl Arpt, Abu Dhabi, AE (AUH) to Dubai Intl Arpt, Dubai, AE (DXB) 72 miles  |
| May 11th, 2014 at 5:19:44 PM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18211 |
They have the cash, let them build. The President is a fink. |
| May 11th, 2014 at 7:42:55 PM permalink | |
| Fleastiff Member since: Oct 27, 2012 Threads: 62 Posts: 7831 | It used to be "they have the cash, let them buy weapons". Don't know which I prefer. Was it Dubai that prosecuted a British woman for kissing a guy on the beach or something? |
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| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Miss Adams, 26, was accused of kissing Ayman Najafi, a British friend who lives in Dubai, while visiting the emirate in November 2009. The pair denied the case, saying they had given each other a peck on the cheek as a greeting in a restaurant in the Jumeirah Beach Residences complex. A kiss of greeting does not contravene the emirate's strict public behaviour codes, as the men kiss in public all the time. There is nothing special about Dubai's geographic position. Both Tokyo Narita, and Hong Kong airport are reachable from any airport hub in Europe or in Northern America. Starting from a major hub, most of the world's major hubs are 1 or 2 lengths away. There are some exceptions.
NOTE: A Boeing 747-400ER is used and makes a stop in Brisbane on the Westbound trip. Qantas has announced that, beginning 29 September 2014, QF7 and QF8 will be operated by the Airbus A380, and that QF8's intermediate stop in Brisbane will be terminated. Discussions have been made over the years of developing a plane that can connect Sydney to JFK (9,934 miles) and LHR (10,563 miles) economically feasible, but with Singapore Airlines abandoning the Newark to Singapore (9,535 miles) flight as economically unsound it probably won't happen anytime soon. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| May 12th, 2014 at 3:04:27 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18211 |
Their idea is that if you look at a flat-earth map they are pretty much in the middle more or less. Take their logic for whatever you like. They are about in the middle of Eurasia and between the top of Europe and the bottom of Africa no matter how you slice it. Anyone who invests in aviation is insane in the first place. The President is a fink. |