Canada Terrorism

Quote: Pacomartin

Gun ownership is believed to be concentrated in roughly 1/3 of US homes (down from 1/2 forty years ago). But the answer is based on surveys, and is subject to a great deal of uncertainty.

That site suggests Canada has 3.5 million rifles. 110 million in the US... so rates of long gun ownership appear to be at least three times that of Canada, not 'about the same'. Some source is wrong, and I suspect its the one I used.

I don't know where you get your stats from. According to Statscan, there were 7,137,386 non-restricted firearms (aka long-guns) registered in September 2011. The firearms rate of ownership is the lowest in PEI at 18,029/100,000 and highest in the Yukon at 87,288/100,000.

That's plenty of guns.

Now, on to the Canadian story. The "guard" at the War Memorial was an honor guard, a symbolic guard of the war memorial, guarding nothing of value. The regiments at Buckingham palace don't carry loaded guns either. The fanatic Muslim was trying to make a point and killed a soldier because Canada is in the air attack against ISIL. Then he made a run into Parliament and got killed. The RCMP who were chasing him obviously all had guns.

He was only able to kill one because the gun was a Winchester 94, with a seven shell maximum, a lever-action rifle. Had he had say, oh, a AR-15 with a bump fire stock and fire 100 rounds (legal in Kentucky, for example), who knows what carnage he would have been able to commit before being gunned down. Point is, this guy was on a suicide mission anyway, but the best he could do was one. With an American Semi-Automatic or automatic, who knows what kind of damage he could have done? As it stands, the law of numbers took over, and the experienced RCMP with multiple weapons took out the fanatic with one, and the Sergeant-at-Arms (who is the head of security at Parliament) did his job and had the training as a former policeman as an RCMP officer for 29 years.

We are not having any discussions in this country on changing gun control laws as a result of what happened. We are saddened by the death of the ceremonial guy and somewhat shocked by the attack overall, but Canada is engaged in a war with radical Muslims, and we should expect a little bit of blowback. It's the price of freedom, in my opinion.

Quote: boymimbo

It's the price of freedom, in my opinion.

Quote: boymimbo

I don't know where you get your stats from. According to Statscan, there were 7,137,386 non-restricted firearms (aka long-guns) registered in September 2011. The firearms rate of ownership is the lowest in PEI at 18,029/100,000 and highest in the Yukon at 87,288/100,000.

RCMP stats
Province/Territory Licences per 100,000 Population
Yukon 19,627
Newfoundland and Labrador 14,231
Northwest Territories 12,380
Nunavut 9,682
Saskatchewan 9,405
New Brunswick 9,266
Nova Scotia 7,904
Manitoba 7,027
Alberta 7,018
Quebec 6,239
Nationwide 5,891
British Columbia 5,672
Prince Edward Island 4,418
Ontario 4,317

I am talking about licenses, while you are talking about guns. Even so, the ratio of 4 or 5 guns per license does seem high, but some of the licenses may be gun clubs, collectors, and stores.

Quote: boymimbo

Canada is engaged in a war with radical Muslims.

Very straightforward statement. The POTUS is so concerned with getting the message across that we are not engaged in war with Muslims, that he can barely say "We are at war with radical Muslims".

Those are licenses (people), and my statistics are on registered guns when the gun registry was active.

Quote: Pacomartin

RCMP stats
Province/Territory Licences per 100,000 Population
Yukon 19,627
Newfoundland and Labrador 14,231
Northwest Territories 12,380
Nunavut 9,682
Saskatchewan 9,405
New Brunswick 9,266
Nova Scotia 7,904
Manitoba 7,027
Alberta 7,018
Quebec 6,239
Nationwide 5,891
British Columbia 5,672
Prince Edward Island 4,418
Ontario 4,317

I am talking about licenses, while you are talking about guns. Even so, the ratio of 4 or 5 guns per license does seem high, but some of the licenses may be gun clubs, collectors, and stores.

The friends I have who have guns always have more than one probably the average of the regular hunter would be 3 or 4. On top of that you have gun collectors or keener hunters who have many more than that. I don't know anybody that gets rid of a rifle when they buy a new one. They keep all the rifles until finally they are totally done hunting or die and then they all are gone in one fell swoop. Also those who hunt probably often will buy a rifle or two for their kids to teach them how to shoot and hunt. These rifles are all under dads license until the kids are old enough to get their own license.

Quote: boymimbo

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The "guard" at the War Memorial was an honor guard, a symbolic guard of the war memorial, guarding nothing of value.

I disagree, he was an "honor" guard. We each get to put our own value on that, eh?

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He was only able to kill one because the gun was a Winchester 94,

I don't understand all this talk about guns.
I have a case full of handguns and a bunch
of rifles and shotguns. Now I want more,
thanks a lot..

If the cops come for you more guns won't help, only more bullets per minute.