Democratic Nominee in 2020

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March 5th, 2020 at 5:28:51 AM permalink
RonC
Member since: Nov 7, 2012
Threads: 9
Posts: 2582
"Dream Defenders" endorse Bernie...

"Police and prisons have no place in "justice". Police and prisons aren't just racist but they work to enforce the separations of rich and poor. True safety can't be found where it was never meant to be. We deserve real safety over our cities, our states, our homes, our schools, our workplaces, and our community centers."

https://www.dreamdefenders.org/freedompapers

They have no solution to offer; just complaints. Some parts of their complaint are justified but there are much better ways to fix those parts than abolishing police and prisons. That would create more lawlessness, not less.

Should Bernie denounce this endorsement?
March 5th, 2020 at 6:11:03 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
Threads: 76
Posts: 12501
Quote: RonC
"Dream Defenders" endorse Bernie...

Dumb extremists on the left
Best to ignore these clowns
Bernie should not give them any attention
Let them fade away
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
March 5th, 2020 at 6:59:20 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
Threads: 25
Posts: 5742
Quote: terapined
Dumb extremists on the left
Best to ignore these clowns
Bernie should not give them any attention
Let them fade away


I agree. Buttttttt....... When a KKK or other equally vile organization supports a Republican that Republican is excoriated if he doesn't immediately denounce said support. Just another example of the difference the media and social media reacts to loonies on the left versus loonies on the right.
March 5th, 2020 at 7:25:21 AM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
Threads: 76
Posts: 12501
Quote: SOOPOO
I agree. Buttttttt....... When a KKK or other equally vile organization supports a Republican that Republican is excoriated if he doesn't immediately denounce said support. Just another example of the difference the media and social media reacts to loonies on the left versus loonies on the right.

Republicans should be excoriated if they accept KKK money support
but barring that
Dumb extremists on the right
Best to ignore these clowns
Nobody should give them any attention
Let them fade away
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
March 5th, 2020 at 7:57:15 AM permalink
aceofspades
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 83
Posts: 2019
Warren is bowing out





But yes, for real, Warren is ending her campaign
March 5th, 2020 at 8:26:06 AM permalink
aceofspades
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 2019


March 5th, 2020 at 8:36:52 AM permalink
kenarman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 14
Posts: 4530
Quote: aceofspades




She is a university graduate. "Trust the scientists"

Even her correction has him giving away $327 trillion of net worth of $45 billion and not noticing. People with no math skills shouldn't have a vote on financial matters.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
March 5th, 2020 at 9:35:37 AM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
Threads: 30
Posts: 5256
Quote: AZDuffman
This is true of much of the left even if most liberals are not as open or radical about it. The right gets tagged as hating America for being against government, but the average person on the right more loves their country but hates/does not trust their government.

The lefty OTOH is more likely to hate the USA because we had slavery. Hate the USA because we pushed the Indians aside. Hate the USA for "destroying the environment." Up and down the line, just find a reason to hate the USA. They look at Cuba or the USSR and ignore the evil those places did. Stalin killed more people than Hitler dreamed of killing, as did the Chinese and other SE Asian communist leaders. That get ignored because they have a great public train system or appear to offer health care to all.

It's warped, but so are these people. Bernie supporters remind me of the kind of radicals who would in a revolution kill all the people who worked at the power plant for "forcing them to pay for electricity because electricity should be a 'right'" then would wonder why the lights were out.


I think that it is true of the most extreme wings of the left and the right. The extreme right (Libertarians), view the military as an imperialist bully.
The extreme left views the economy as rigged, and interventions as imperialism (the same applies to the extreme right).

The left views American history as tainted for several key reasons, some of which you mentioned (slavery and Native American treatment). But, the reality is, even when factoring all of the negative aspects of America, it is still the greatest force for good in world history. The tribes that were here when Europeans arrived used violence to seize the lands from others, Europeans were just more advanced and were able to take lands with ease. Slavery was awful, but just about every region has had some form of slavery, America was the only country in history willing to rip its self apart for the sake of ending it.....

America is not perfect. But, given its short history, and unique systems, it has done more for global progress than any other country in history.
March 5th, 2020 at 9:38:24 AM permalink
Tripdufan
Member since: Oct 3, 2019
Threads: 0
Posts: 716
Quote: AZDuffman
The right gets tagged as hating America for being against government,


How can a party that grows the size of government at every opportunity be against government? Cracks me up.
March 5th, 2020 at 9:54:23 AM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 148
Posts: 25978
Hunter Biden: Dad, I'm begging you to drop out. Trump says he's going to
mention me every day and I don't want to go to prison!

Nursing Home Joe: I'll pardon you when I'm president, son.

Hunter Biden: I'm doomed.....
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.