Democratic Nominee in 2020

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April 11th, 2020 at 6:33:31 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: SOOPOO
I think if you are unemployed the Dow means bupkus. But for the 95% ish that want to be employed and will be, and all the retirees, the Dow (or S & P, or NASDAQ) is a better indicator of 'the economy'.

My point is if YOU are not unemployed it really doesn't matter if the unemployment rate is 3.5% or 4.5%.


Also, what if the unemployment rate is still in double digits come November as many are now predicting?
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April 11th, 2020 at 6:35:35 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Quote: ams288
I think the Dow is a terrible measure of the economy, as evidenced by this instant-classic tone deaf screenshot:



The DOW is almost meaningless to the majority of Americans.
April 11th, 2020 at 7:21:44 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: SOOPOO
Good question! My guess is that the Democrats, scared shitless over a possible Sanders nomination, had to pick someone. Biden had a plurality, the VP experience, and name recognition, and at least the appearance of being 'central' enough to be palatable. If I remember correctly, he was a big favorite UNTIL the debates started.
That's how he made it through the debates..... poorly!


Biden was golden during the debates. All the other dems were ordered that bidens personal problems, like his health and Hunter Biden, we're off limits. This will not be true with Trump. He has already stated that once he gets going on the campaign trail he's going to mention Hunter Biden every chance he gets. It's Joe biden's Achilles heel. Hunter Biden is why Trump was impeached, you
think he's going to forget all about that? He will gut Biden every chance he gets over the corruption of his family and Ukraine and China.
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April 11th, 2020 at 10:56:20 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Evenbob
He has already stated that once he gets going on the campaign trail he's going to mention Hunter Biden every chance he gets.


How boring. Whereas Biden will probably need a virtual rolodex to mention all of Trump's many faults and troubles.
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April 12th, 2020 at 12:28:00 AM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: rxwine
How boring. Whereas Biden will probably need a virtual rolodex to mention all of Trump's many faults and troubles.


It's amusing that you think the issues with
Hunter Biden and his dads
corrupt dealings with Ukraine and China
are part of their 'faults and troubles'.
Luckily for Senile Joe he probably
honestly has no memory of any of
it now.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 12th, 2020 at 1:10:48 AM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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So anyway, everything EB has said about Biden, Trump is going to absolutely slaughter Biden at the debate. Wipe the floor with him. Run the table. Knock him out in the first round!

What else could he mean? There's virtually no chance Biden will do anything but mumble confused sentences.

Sooooo, let's see how that turns out.
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April 12th, 2020 at 5:19:41 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: SOOPOO
I can't explain it, but he 'seems' good at a debate, and plays well to the audience. He won the nomination by crushing the field in the debates. Him winning a debate is not determined by the Harvard Debate Team captain, but by Joe Blow.


And that is what the left just does not get. They think they are forever on campus, not in the real world. You can go back to Algore. He had all his facts and numbers memorized, yet he got clobbered in all 3 debates because he came across as an unlikable elitist.

It will go the same way this time. Trump is just far more likable than Biden. Biden is a sack of fertilizer on stage, no personality.
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April 12th, 2020 at 5:48:08 AM permalink
RonC
Member since: Nov 7, 2012
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I don't know what will happen in the debates before the general election, but Biden lost traction as the Democrat debates started:

"Former Vice President Joe Biden’s lead in the race for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination has shrunk by 10 percentage points in a CNN poll conducted since last week’s debates that showed Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren getting significant bumps in support.

The poll of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents found Biden drew support from 22%, compared with 32% a month ago,"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-01/biden-s-lead-shrinks-as-warren-harris-rise-in-post-debate-poll

His opening position was strong, so he survived as others had to drop out. Most of his debate performances were average or worse.

I still think the overall status of the country through the emergency as November arrives is more important than the debates.
April 12th, 2020 at 5:50:47 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: ams288
Also, what if the unemployment rate is still in double digits come November as many are now predicting?


Then President Biden will inherit it.
April 12th, 2020 at 11:16:59 AM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 148
Posts: 25978
Quote: RonC
Most of his debate performances were average or worse.


Biden stunk in the debates. Anybody
who says he 'crushed it' wasn't really
watching. He stumbled and mumbled
and lost his train of thought all the
time. Just like he does now. If he loses
his place reading notes or on the prompter,
he's done. And there's nobody he can
pick for VP that will save him from the
most embarrassing election in the last
100 years. Rest Home Joe looks old, acts
old, and is old. Would anybody let this
old man drive them 2 blocks to the store,
let alone run anything larger than a
lemonade stand?
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.