Democratic Nominee in 2020

Quote: terapined

I'm not worried about November
The whole election will be a referendum on how Trump handled the virus and the crumbling economy.
That's it. What Biden says doesn't matter
I predict Trump will do worse then McGovern when we get to well over a 100k deaths and 20% unemployment in Nov.
He'll be viewed like Hoover

The longer we stay locked down, the more it plays into the Biden's hand.

I'm not advocating instant ending of the lock down; I am just stating that the longer people are in distress, the longer the recovery will take. More businesses will fail, more people will have no work to go back to, and more people will slide down the income scale.

The longer we stay in lock down mode, the less questions about anything (I am not talking the sexual thing here) dealing with government Biden will have to answer. More is less for him. More distress, more panic, more economic issues, less time spent examining his candidacy.

There is a difference in his sharpness from the 1988 campaign. where he was considered a strong candidate going in. which was hampered by plagerism issues.

There is a difference in his sharpness in the 2008 campaign, where he captured less than 1% of the vote in the Iowa caucus.

The longer the effects of the pandemic linger, the better it is for him. I'm not saying anyone is overstating the pandemic or that there are politics at play in keeping us locked down. For now, I just see it as how things go sometimes. He's better off in the basement than on the campaign trail.

Quote: RonC

The longer we stay locked down, the more it plays into the Biden's hand.

I'm not advocating instant ending of the lock down; I am just stating that the longer people are in distress, the longer the recovery will take. More businesses will fail, more people will have no work to go back to, and more people will slide down the income scale.

I'm wondering how many loans, rents, etc., will be renegotiated. Those renting small business mall space don't want the whole place to stay empty because of business making reduced income. Banks, surely can't do much with a crapload of bankrupted properties.

The NYT is saying Biden should step
down? He's toast. Hello Hillary..
Wish I could have seen this coming.
LOL!

"To preserve the strides made on behalf of victims of sexual assault in the era of #MeToo, and to maximize their chances in November, Democrats need to begin formulating an alternative strategy for 2020 — one that does not include Mr. Biden."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/03/opinion/joe-biden-tara-reade.html

Quote: rxwine

I'm wondering how many loans, rents, etc., will be renegotiated. Those renting small business mall space don't want the whole place to stay empty because of business making reduced income. Banks, surely can't do much with a crapload of bankrupted properties.

There will be a lot of that. The amount depends on how long it takes to get back to some semblance of normal. Not a normal without social distancing and masks, but one where people feel useful again, can work, and earn livings. It is all nice living on unemployment, especially with the $600 kicker, for those who are making more than they did at work (something that shouldn't have happened, but those are the things that happen when you do things fast to help)...but it has an end date. Even in the last downturn, the money ended after several extensions. Then you are just broke.

Very few want to have people or businesses go bankrupt. More than a few businesses are going under already. Maybe they were weak going in, but they were there and employees were getting paid. I think banks will work with people the best that they can and some laws may need to be changed a bit to facilitate that. If the real estate market falls too much, we'll be back to people living in houses worth less than they owe and buildings that are in the same position.

America needs all the people back to work as soon as possible. The numbers show many areas where there is very little disease and little or no hospitalization. The study of the disease--including more testing and contact tracing--needs to continue. We can't be blind to the fact that extra tests means extra infections found; we need to balance all the numbers. We accept risks everyday and finding the acceptable risk level for this is part of the equation.

Quote: Evenbob

The NYT is saying Biden should step
down? He's toast. Hello Hillary..
Wish I could have seen this coming.
LOL!

"To preserve the strides made on behalf of victims of sexual assault in the era of #MeToo, and to maximize their chances in November, Democrats need to begin formulating an alternative strategy for 2020 — one that does not include Mr. Biden."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/03/opinion/joe-biden-tara-reade.html

That's just as stupid as the whole Kavanaugh thing. They are just trying to save face because of how they handled that one compared to this one. The truth is that all allegations should be treated properly and investigated with dignity. They should just say they were off base with Kavanaugh and call for a proper investigation of this allegation. They should call for Biden to release ALL documents related to the issue; not just the ones he has asked to be released so far.

Taking out a candidate who has basically won the nomination without going through those steps is a bad idea.

Some of y’all still need to learn what “Opinion sections” of newspapers are.

Quote: Evenbob

The NYT is saying Biden should step
down? He's toast. Hello Hillary..
Wish I could have seen this coming.
LOL!

"To preserve the strides made on behalf of victims of sexual assault in the era of #MeToo, and to maximize their chances in November, Democrats need to begin formulating an alternative strategy for 2020 — one that does not include Mr. Biden."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/03/opinion/joe-biden-tara-reade.html

Good read. But I disagree with the writer 100%. She basically wants him (Biden) jettisoned whether he did anything or not, since it will never be proven true nor false. You CANNOT just allow an accusation to ruin someone's life, career, etc...

As I've said, we are fortunate to have an election coming up. The American people can decide if Biden was guilty or not, just like they did about Trump in 2016. For those who don't remember, there were allegations of sexual improprieties leveled against Trump back then......

I hope the Democrats do not bend to the public pressure and do not remove Biden because of this allegation. If they remove him because of his declining mental capabilities, or if incriminatory evidence with regards to him and his son come to light, that would be different.

Cuomo/Buttigieg?

Quote: ams288

Some of y’all still need to learn what “Opinion sections” of newspapers are.

It blurs the line. It is a Times employee, right? Not a guest writer with the usual "The Times does not endorse....". Whether or not it is the 'official' opinion of the NYT, it is an interesting slant on the topic, and worthy of discussion.

By the way, I hate the idea that a newspaper has an opinion on anything..... Just report the news, please.... (fat chance), and let me decide....

Quote: SOOPOO

It blurs the line. It is a Times employee, right? Not a guest writer with the usual "The Times does not endorse....". Whether or not it is the 'official' opinion of the NYT, it is an interesting slant on the topic, and worthy of discussion.

Sure, feel free discuss it.

But typing “the NYT is saying....” about something in their opinion section is just wrong. Some random opinion writer no one has ever heard of before is saying it.

Quote: ams288

Some of y’all still need to learn what “Opinion sections” of newspapers are.

So expressing an opinion about what the potential outcome of an opinion piece is not acceptable in your opinion?

Many things start from a small group of people turning against a person or idea; many times that happening has no impact at all.