The Gay Thread

June 20th, 2025 at 12:28:46 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
I don't believe that it has ever been established that gay people "choose" to be gay.

Oh sure, lots of folks will experiment out of curiosity: fact is, exploring bi-sexuality seems to be sort of "cool" these days.

I've had a couple gay friends and they never wavered in their belief that they were gay; usually they "knew" by about age seven or eight.

Hasn't the concept of "deprogramming" gays been thoroughly discredited?


If conversion therapy didn't work the gays would not be so against it.

It used to be considered a mental illness. That would mean "not a choice." They changed that in the early 70s best I can tell. I don't buy the "born this way" thing. Too many contradictions. Though it seems gays have too high a sex drive, which could be a "less a choice" thing.

Until a genetic link is found we do not know for sure. If they do find one then parents could select to have an abortion perhaps?
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June 20th, 2025 at 12:39:49 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Such fanciful thinking; let me guess: you believe blacks are born with an "extra muscle?"
June 20th, 2025 at 1:28:07 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
Such fanciful thinking; let me guess: you believe blacks are born with an "extra muscle?"


Blacks have different muscle mass than whites, you can see that by looking. What is wrong with pointing it out?
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June 20th, 2025 at 1:54:59 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: SOOPOO
My nephew is mostly disinterested in politics. I’d have no problem telling him why I’d vote for anyone over Mamdani if I still lived in NYC. My gay nephew is also Jewish. I’d say anti Semitism is a far more important issue for him going forward. So, to be clear, candidates’ positions on gay rights is a factor, but not the only factor, in my evaluating candidates. I could never vote for Mamdani, or Trump for that matter, regardless of their positions on gay rights.


That makes you part of the problem, and not part of the solution.
June 20th, 2025 at 4:11:32 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: AZDuffman
If conversion therapy didn't work the gays would not be so against it.



If straight people would go through conversion therapy there would be many less morons in the world.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 20th, 2025 at 7:46:01 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: GenoDRPh
That makes you part of the problem, and not part of the solution.


Answer me this. If Trump had every policy position he has now, but also was a champion of gay rights, would you vote for him over Harris, if she had every policy position she has except she was against gay rights? Unfortunately, you can’t line item veto a candidate.

I don’t think we need a solution now for gay rights. They have them.
June 20th, 2025 at 7:55:35 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: SOOPOO
Answer me this. If Trump had every policy position he has now, but also was a champion of gay rights, would you vote for him over Harris, if she had every policy position she has except she was against gay rights? Unfortunately, you can’t line item veto a candidate.


Depends what the states do. That being said, a person as hateful as Donny would not have the positions he does AND also be pro-gay rights. A person as progressive as Kamala would have the positions she has and NOT be in favor of gay right. SO the question is not e legit question, because there is no person in the wild who meets the criteria you mentioned above.

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I don’t think we need a solution now for gay rights. They have them.
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And into the future? What would YOU do to bulwark gay rights against possible future interference? How about abortion rights. You've stated multiple times int he past how pro-choice you are as evidenced by your participation in such procedures throughout your career, especially hen your colleagues declined. WHat have you done over the eyars to solidy such rights? Did you vote for pro-choice candidates? Did you advocate for pro-choice laws? When it comes to public policies that actually matter to people, you are all hat and no cattle.
June 20th, 2025 at 8:10:19 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: SOOPOO
Answer me this. If Trump had every policy position he has now, but also was a champion of gay rights, would you vote for him over Harris, if she had every policy position she has except she was against gay rights? Unfortunately, you can’t line item veto a candidate.


Depends what the states do. That being said, a person as hateful as Donny would not have the positions he does AND also be pro-gay rights. A person as progressive as Kamala would have the positions she has and NOT be in favor of gay right. SO the question is not e legit question, because there is no person in the wild who meets the criteria you mentioned above.

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I don’t think we need a solution now for gay rights. They have them.
h
And into the future? What would YOU do to bulwark gay rights against possible future interference? How about abortion rights. You've stated multiple times int he past how pro-choice you are as evidenced by your participation in such procedures throughout your career, especially hen your colleagues declined. WHat have you done over the eyars to solidy such rights? Did you vote for pro-choice candidates? Did you advocate for pro-choice laws? When it comes to public policies that actually matter to people, you are all hat and no cattle.
June 20th, 2025 at 8:20:43 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Hey, what about us White Guy rights?
June 21st, 2025 at 2:50:48 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: GenoDRPh
Depends what the states do. That being said, a person as hateful as Donny would not have the positions he does AND also be pro-gay rights. A person as progressive as Kamala would have the positions she has and NOT be in favor of gay right. SO the question is not e legit question, because there is no person in the wild who meets the criteria you mentioned above.

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And into the future? What would YOU do to bulwark gay rights against possible future interference? How about abortion rights. You've stated multiple times int he past how pro-choice you are as evidenced by your participation in such procedures throughout your career, especially hen your colleagues declined. WHat have you done over the eyars to solidy such rights? Did you vote for pro-choice candidates? Did you advocate for pro-choice laws? When it comes to public policies that actually matter to people, you are all hat and no cattle.


Trump hateful? You are delusional. Have you not seen video of Kamala?

Anyhow, the thing is while some people may be in favor of gay rights and lean pro-choice, they are usually not their top issue. Ever notice that the one who talks the most about abortion usually loses? Doesn't matter the side, they tend to lose. Candidates promising more abortions get the crazy cat-lady vote. But it turns off more people that it gains. Likewise, when it comes to gay rights most people do not want to see a return to 1960s bath house raids, but they know gays have their rights. So their attitude is "move on to the next thing."

Watch the video, the current gay movement is not about "rights" it is about attention-whoring their Sodom and Gomorrah lifestyles.
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