The Coronavirus thread

Quote: RonC

I am a "rightie" and I support vaccines and boosters but not mandates by the Federal government. Those should be done, as has survived challenges, at the State level.

I did not say that testing was more important. I said that the President promised more testing and he failed to deliver. It was a promise within h. He is power to keep.

How does someone as smart as you are dismiss testing as part of the equation?

Testing is important. We had tests. Tested a family member. Positive (double vaxxed 24 year old). Took immediate action. Isolated him. Followed CDC guidelines. Tested others. All vaxxed x2, most x3. Stopped the spread within the family, one of the danger areas of spread.

Who knows which vaxxed person who gets a bad variant will suffer from severe sickness or even death? Not you and not me. Since we don't know, we try to stop the spread.

Testing is critical. Even with the vaccines injected.

Get those contracts signed and production rolling! You'll still be behind but making progress....

I'm not in favor of mandates for common citizens by any level of Government, with the exception being employees of a given level of Government, in which event, the Government can demand of its employees whatever it likes.

I've got Covid right now as a matter of fact, but I'm only single vaxxed. I was getting around to getting the booster when I had a day to be down and out, of course, ended up being down and out longer than that as a result of (assumedly) catching Covid, so that's theoretically on me if we want to assume I wouldn't have gotten it had I got my booster at earliest opportunity. Anyway, I'm quarantining myself until the 10th, not that I would have been inclined to go anywhere from the 1st-3rd even if I weren't positive...and I didn't test until the 2nd anyway because I thought it was strep throat, but decided I'd better make sure more out of a concern of giving Covid to someone else than anything else.

Quote: ams288

Future GOP Presidential nominee Ron FatSantis thinks too much testing is a bad thing.

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1478419855766396938?s=21

Is it impossible that people are getting tested for no good reason? I don't know anyone like this personally, but I have heard tell of people who get tested anytime they have been, "Exposed to," Covid, except they define, "Exposed to," as being near anyone who potentially has Covid. By that definition, a person should get tested a few days after every grocery store trip, or what have you, which I think would be a bit ridiculous (but totally up to them, of course).

Quote: ams288

Never heard of them. They may have been influencers in France, but frankly this won't influence anyone.
Much as I'm amused by the Herman Cain awards, they are barely a sideshow.

Quote: Mission146

I'm not in favor of mandates for common citizens by any level of Government, with the exception being employees of a given level of Government, in which event, the Government can demand of its employees whatever it likes.

I am not necessarily "for" vaccine mandates. I do believe that passing mandates at the State level is more appropriate based on previous cases where vaccines were required. I think the Federal government overreached with the mandates and has not had much luck in the courts so far.

We always should try to do things at State and Local levels because ceding power to the Federal government is forever. Keep that limited as intended.

Quote: terapined

https://news.yahoo.com/jan-6-anniversary-poll-share-of-trump-voters-who-believe-biden-won-fair-and-square-falls-to-9-percent-amid-declining-trust-in-us-democracy-100017416.html
We live in interesting times
91% of Trump voters are super duper extremists
And some of them post here :-)

Repeat the narrative endlessly, the religion playbook has already proven to work well with these people and it continues to work with a different narrative. Of course, the Far Left uses many of the same tactics that religion does, so it leads me to believe that it's just an effective play call.

Quote: Mission146

As far as the Far Right is concerned, many of them are Evangelical Christians, so living in a fantasy world is not a concept particularly foreign to them, nor is believing things without any proof whatsoever.

Right on!

Quote: Mission146

I'm not in favor of mandates for common citizens by any level of Government, with the exception being employees of a given level of Government, in which event, the Government can demand of its employees whatever it likes.

I've got Covid right now as a matter of fact, but I'm only single vaxxed. I was getting around to getting the booster when I had a day to be down and out, of course, ended up being down and out longer than that as a result of (assumedly) catching Covid, so that's theoretically on me if we want to assume I wouldn't have gotten it had I got my booster at earliest opportunity. Anyway, I'm quarantining myself until the 10th, not that I would have been inclined to go anywhere from the 1st-3rd even if I weren't positive...and I didn't test until the 2nd anyway because I thought it was strep throat, but decided I'd better make sure more out of a concern of giving Covid to someone else than anything else.

Sorry to hear it Mission. Get well soon.

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but decided I'd better make sure more out of a concern of giving Covid to someone else than anything else.

And that sir is true altruism. Testing might be more of an inconvenience or expense to you guys, but if you give a damn about anyone of your circle of family or friends, it is just common decency to get tested and to quarantine. Not Either/Or, but both!

Quote: OnceDear

Sorry to hear it Mission. Get well soon.

And that sir is true altruism. Testing might be more of an inconvenience or expense to you guys, but if you give a damn about anyone of your circle of family or friends, it is just common decency to get tested and to quarantine. Not Either/Or, but both!

Nothing to be sorry about, but thank you for your sentiment. I'm pretty much better, assuming no dip after a false recovery...the body aches were the worst part for me (particularly back), but everything else about it was pretty minor.

I wouldn't call the simple act of not wanting to be potentially directly responsible for another person's death, "True altruism," and I also feel a little bit like a hypocrite for showing any concern towards the unvaccinated...but I guess I'm a softie at heart. The test was a two-pack that cost $20. On that note, I now recall that I tested negative on Friday and positive on Sunday, having taken the Sunday test because I was worse that day than I was on Friday or Saturday.

It's tough to post about because I prefer not to be wrong about things that I post, but if I'm totally honest, I really don't have much recollection of Friday evening to Sunday evening and, at one point yesterday, thought it was still Sunday...so my memory of all events over the weekend is a little jumbled because I was kind of out of it the better part of the time.

There is no doubt that the ability to test for covid does not meet current demand.

I came down with a sore throat last Saturday and wanted to test for covid.

No test kits can be found in stores: my wife searched many, and they fly off the shelves shortly after arriving.

I tried to book an appointment at local testing facilities and due to demand the earliest I can get tested is tomorrow, so I booked it.

A classic supply and demand situation, with demand far exceeding available supply.

Not sure what Biden could have done to ease this situation.

Quote: missedhervee

There is no doubt that the ability to test for covid does not meet current demand...

....Not sure what Biden could have done to ease this situation..

Really? He could have simply done what he said he would do....get lots and lots of tests out there. He even admits to being late to his own promise.

Maybe Omicron would have overrun the amount anyone could make. The problem is he didn't do anything before to get home tests in every home.

Other countries did.

That might have helped lots of people who got sick earlier.