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January 8th, 2022 at 12:19:52 PM permalink
RonC
Member since: Nov 7, 2012
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"We have over 100,000 children, which we've never had before, in serious condition, many on ventilators," she said."

--Justice Sotomayor


https://www.foxnews.com/media/sonia-sotomayor-roasted-false-information-about-child-covid-hospitalizations

She needs some better clerks...

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Any comment on this gem:

Gorsuch: "the flu kills hundreds of thousands of people every year"

The flu does not kill hundreds of thousands every year.


It absolutely kills hundreds of thousands every year. I think JUST AMERICANS the number is around 70,000. You don’t think the REST OF THE WORLD adds at least another 30,000? Really?

(From memory…. If I’m wrong I’ll happily eat crow…)



I’m not wrong. Depending on what source and what year, the flu kills around 300,000 - 700,000 people a year. Ams challenges Gorsuch who said ‘the flu kills hundreds of thousands of people each year’. You don’t think 300,000 is hundreds of thousands? How about 700,000? Or let me guess, if they aren’t Americans they don’t count as people? ams——. FAIL!


I did not reply to ams288 because he is blocked. I did see his comment because I do not log in on my phone, so the lock is not on there and I see all comments. I checked out the numbers and the quotes and the context of what Goesuch said...here is proof for his statement:

"Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year. "

https://www.health.com/condition/flu/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year

Had he said "we" his statement would have been comparable to Sotomayer's ("our" number is not in the 100,000's)...her number was way, way off...

The two comments are not the same at all.
January 8th, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
Threads: 25
Posts: 5744
Quote: RonC
Quote: SOOPOO
Quote: SOOPOO
Quote: ams288
Quote: RonC
"We have over 100,000 children, which we've never had before, in serious condition, many on ventilators," she said."

--Justice Sotomayor


https://www.foxnews.com/media/sonia-sotomayor-roasted-false-information-about-child-covid-hospitalizations

She needs some better clerks...

[edit to fix link]


Any comment on this gem:

Gorsuch: "the flu kills hundreds of thousands of people every year"

The flu does not kill hundreds of thousands every year.


It absolutely kills hundreds of thousands every year. I think JUST AMERICANS the number is around 70,000. You don’t think the REST OF THE WORLD adds at least another 30,000? Really?

(From memory…. If I’m wrong I’ll happily eat crow…)



I’m not wrong. Depending on what source and what year, the flu kills around 300,000 - 700,000 people a year. Ams challenges Gorsuch who said ‘the flu kills hundreds of thousands of people each year’. You don’t think 300,000 is hundreds of thousands? How about 700,000? Or let me guess, if they aren’t Americans they don’t count as people? ams——. FAIL!


I did not reply to ams288 because he is blocked. I did see his comment because I do not log in on my phone, so the lock is not on there and I see all comments. I checked out the numbers and the quotes and the context of what Goesuch said...here is proof for his statement:

"Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year. "

https://www.health.com/condition/flu/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year

Had he said "we" his statement would have been comparable to Sotomayer's ("our" number is not in the 100,000's)...her number was way, way off...

The two comments are not the same at all.


Thanks Ron. I would have been surprised had Columbia educated Gorsuch would make that mistake.
January 8th, 2022 at 12:48:18 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: SOOPOO
I’m not wrong. Depending on what source and what year, the flu kills around 300,000 - 700,000 people a year. Ams challenges Gorsuch who said ‘the flu kills hundreds of thousands of people each year’. You don’t think 300,000 is hundreds of thousands? How about 700,000? Or let me guess, if they aren’t Americans they don’t count as people? ams——. FAIL!


Correct, non-Americans do not count.

Unless the Supreme Court was for some reason debating some other country’s vaccine mandate.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
January 8th, 2022 at 1:10:11 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 22938
Agree with AMS, why would the Supreme Court be referring to world wide stats? That's not their jurisdiction.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
January 8th, 2022 at 1:21:00 PM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
Threads: 25
Posts: 5744
Quote: ams288
Correct, non-Americans do not count.

Unless the Supreme Court was for some reason debating some other country’s vaccine mandate.


Not his fault you are unaware the word ‘people’ is not synonymous with ‘American’. If he wanted to say ‘Americans’, he knew there was such a word. And the President is CERTAINLY concerned about the worldwide effects of the pandemic. He repeatedly touts the free vaccines we give to other countries. He has blocked entry to the USA because of infections in certain countries. Border policy is affected by outside infections.

It is truly laughable that you actually said ‘non Americans do not count’. Not the policy point most liberals will take on discussing the millions of illegal aliens here!
January 8th, 2022 at 1:25:30 PM permalink
Tanko
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Posts: 2470
Quote: rxwine
Agree with AMS, why would the Supreme Court be referring to world wide stats? That's not their jurisdiction.


It is known as Comparative Constitutional law. Comparing US decisions to foreign decisions.

"In a 1999 death penalty case, Breyer, citing judicial decisions from Jamaica, India, Zimbabwe, and the European Court of Human Rights said, “A growing number of courts outside the United States … have held that lengthy delay in administering a lawful death penalty renders ultimate execution inhuman, degrading, or unusually cruel.”

No other Justice signed Breyer's dissent.
January 8th, 2022 at 1:27:48 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 148
Posts: 25978
Judge Gives FDA 8 Months to Release Pfizer Vaccine Data After Agency Requested 75 Years

The FDA has been requested to release documents concerning the covid vaccine developed by Pfizer.
The FDA said it wants 75 years before they release. Now why would that be if this crap was not a total disaster.
What are they hiding? They are hiding the damaging results that happened in a lot of the testing they did.
People that died, people that had brain damage, people who lost permanent use of parts of their bodies.
Y'all keep patting yourselves on the back for being the guinea pigs that you are, I'm perfectly happy with
the stance I took.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
January 8th, 2022 at 1:39:25 PM permalink
Tanko
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Posts: 2470
Nurse Says Viagra Saved Her From Severe Covid-19 Coronavirus Infection
January 8th, 2022 at 1:49:28 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
Threads: 76
Posts: 12501
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Nurse Says Viagra Saved Her From Severe Covid-19 Coronavirus Infection

Totally meaningless
I'm really aghast that the right wing tries to use anecdotal stories to get drugs approved as treatment
Its the ultimate stupidity
Its incredibly dumb
Thats why we have rigorous drug trials instead depending on anecdotal stories
By the way
I've social distanced, worn a mask and boosted.
Have yet to get covid. Will viagra help? Doubt it lol
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
January 8th, 2022 at 1:58:06 PM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 217
Posts: 22938
This what the Newsweek article says Breyer meant.

Quote:
Neil Gorsuch after he incorrectly suggested on Friday that the seasonal flu kills "hundreds of thousands" each year in the United States.


https://www.newsweek.com/justice-neil-gorsuch-slammed-after-he-suggests-flu-kills-hundreds-thousands-each-year-1667015
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.