Biden's Biggest Blunder

November 5th, 2021 at 11:58:40 AM permalink
rxwine
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And Liz Cheney should get the "Medal of Freedom".
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November 5th, 2021 at 12:07:15 PM permalink
Evenbob
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More and more people are saying the election results from Tuesday point to an obviously stolen election in 2020. Just a year ago so many people loved the crap out of Poopypants Joe Biden so much that they gave him the most votes for president in history. Supposedly. Where are all those rabid fans now? In Virginia not only did they not vote for Terry McAuliffe scads of Democrats voted for the Republican. This is because Biden did not win 2020. People forget the fact that Trump got more votes than any sitting president in history. With results like they had in Virginia it's obvious that he won that election. Nobody wanted Joe Biden in 2020 and nobody wants him now. This crap that Republicans hated Trump so much they voted for Biden is just that, crap. If that were true Trump would not have gotten more votes than any sitting president. And it's a fact that if people do not like the person in office they do not vote for the other party, they will just not vote at all.
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November 5th, 2021 at 12:13:56 PM permalink
rxwine
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Also, there's a little matter of what Trump knew, or was told about what was going on as the violence started and when or what he did about it. How long he waited specifically.

Maybe we'll never know, maybe we will. Funny some of the staff around him aren't running up there to testify and clear him.
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November 5th, 2021 at 12:35:25 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: rxwine
Also, there's a little matter of what Trump knew, or was told about what was going on as the violence started and when or what he did about it. How long he waited specifically.


You mean on that totally planned and set up scam of a farce on January 6th? The one that had retired FBI and CIA operatives egging people on? Isn't it a miracle that none of these people were arrested because the fix was in. This was all planned just like the tiki torch Fiasco in Virginia. It has more holes in it than a piece of Swiss cheese. I like the video that you never see in the media that has people peacefully filing in to the capital past the police officers standing at the door and nobody is stopping them. Then they peacefully file by more police officers in the hallways and nobody is stopping them. So much for insurrection.
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November 5th, 2021 at 12:36:47 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: JCW09

Telling supporters to demand that "Congress to do the right thing" &
and acknowledging that they will be "marching down to the Capitol to peacefully & patriotically make your voices heard".
Sorry CNN/MSNBC, you can spin "Fight Like Hell" all you want, the word "Fight" in politics has lots of meanings.
Peacefully & Patriotically make your voices heard only has one meaning.

Yet the evidence presented in court says quite the opposite
Defendent after drefendent said Trump ordered them to attack the capitol
Look it up
People are doing time for this
Not a few
Many are still sitting in jail as they should be
I've been to many protests on the Mall
I used to live in MD
I've seen just every protest imaginable. Some I really remember were the huge Muslim protests. "Hitler and Sharon are the same, only difference is the name"
Out of all those gazillion peaceful protests
Nobody was ever stupid enough to attack the capitol
Only the dumbest people in the country would ever attack the capitol
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November 5th, 2021 at 12:54:19 PM permalink
rxwine
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I can show people doing nothing during all the antifa riots with police standing by. Besides, they've already charged some of capitol police for their own misbehavior. Letting people in, sure, some did it.

So, far evenbob has enough nutty ideas, he should bury them and save them for winter.
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November 5th, 2021 at 4:15:16 PM permalink
JCW09
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Quote: terapined
Yet the evidence presented in court says quite the opposite
Defendent after drefendent said Trump ordered them to attack the capitol
Look it up
People are doing time for this
Not a few
Many are still sitting in jail as they should be
I've been to many protests on the Mall
I used to live in MD
I've seen just every protest imaginable. Some I really remember were the huge Muslim protests. "Hitler and Sharon are the same, only difference is the name"
Out of all those gazillion peaceful protests
Nobody was ever stupid enough to attack the capitol
Only the dumbest people in the country would ever attack the capitol

I tend to believe the video that I saw with my own eyes of what Trump said at the rally.
Did the video showing Trump telling people to attack the Capitol surface during the inquisition?
Oh that's right, it's in the vault with the Russian Pee Tape & currently unavailable.
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November 7th, 2021 at 5:05:50 PM permalink
Gandler
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So I just read a highly insane article on the pull out of Afghanistan. One that is probably not worth taking seriously.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-slams-bidens-surrender-of-afghanistan-warns-china-could-take-bagram

"I would have been out too, but we would have been out with strength. We would have come out with strength." -Trump


I don't even know what that means. Basically both Trump and Biden think that pulling out was the right move (it was not), but Trump thinks Biden pulled out wrong.

The smart move which both do not seem to realize would be a permanent force of 2-5k troops there.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:58:27 AM permalink
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Quote: Gandler
So I just read a highly insane article on the pull out of Afghanistan. One that is probably not worth taking seriously.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-slams-bidens-surrender-of-afghanistan-warns-china-could-take-bagram

"I would have been out too, but we would have been out with strength. We would have come out with strength." -Trump


I don't even know what that means. Basically both Trump and Biden think that pulling out was the right move (it was not), but Trump thinks Biden pulled out wrong.

The smart move which both do not seem to realize would be a permanent force of 2-5k troops there.


In order to, "Pull out," you must eventually pull out, so any permanent force is not conducive to pulling out.

Paraphrasing what Trump said, (and, to be clear, I have no opinion on this matter) he would have exited in a slower and more orderly fashion, he'd have gotten civilians out of there first and he would have brought back most of our planes and equipment and destroyed whatever was not to be brought back.
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November 8th, 2021 at 7:02:29 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: Mission146
In order to, "Pull out," you must eventually pull out, so any permanent force is not conducive to pulling out.

Paraphrasing what Trump said, (and, to be clear, I have no opinion on this matter) he would have exited in a slower and more orderly fashion, he'd have gotten civilians out of there first and he would have brought back most of our planes and equipment and destroyed whatever was not to be brought back.


Except that does not even make sense, since Trump originally wanted to pull out earlier, and originally criticized Biden for staying longer (I think May was his plan).

Which again Biden takes the blame, it's just insane commentary from Trump.

But, I don't accept pulling out was the right move, I think a permanent force of 2-5k is reasonable.