Biden's Biggest Blunder

September 1st, 2021 at 2:39:06 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: kenarman
So your answer is he is still better than Trump. You have always characterized Trump as the worst president ever. So I assume you agree Biden is one of the two worst presidents ever.


I can’t follow your logic on that one.

Check the 538 comparison. Biden’s current avg is nearly 10 points higher than Donny’s was at the exact same point in his presidency. This is after Biden has had weeks of terrible Afghanistan media coverage.

I’d say that’s quite decent, overall.

And don’t get me started on you now taking approval ratings as gospel after four years of always downplaying Donny’s terrible numbers...
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September 1st, 2021 at 3:33:12 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: kenarman
So your answer is he is still better than Trump. You have always characterized Trump as the worst president ever. So I assume you agree Biden is one of the two worst presidents ever.

Huh
This is temporary
Donny stayed low
Biden is smart
Take out the garbage early in the term
As people forget about Afganistan and they will
His numbers will be back to wee ahead of Trump
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September 1st, 2021 at 5:38:54 PM permalink
fleaswatter
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Well. well, well

The US had been fighting the Taliban for 20 years before the US surrendered to them.

Now the bidumb administration is contemplating sending them money and having the US military work with them.

You can't make this s--t up.


Also: Report: Taliban gives US tanks, military equipment to Iran
September 1st, 2021 at 6:08:12 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: fleaswatter
Well. well, well

The US had been fighting the Taliban for 20 years before the US surrendered to them.

Now the bidumb administration is contemplating sending them money and having the US military work with them.

You can't make this s--t up.


Also: Report: Taliban gives US tanks, military equipment to Iran


My guess would be the Taliban is bringing what I would call more complicated equipment to Iran to sell, because they could use the cash and can't effectively use the equipment.

As for sending money to the Taliban, I don't see that in the link (or anywhere else), and its unlikely (though not impossible) that the military would work with the Taliban (in the near future). I say this for the reason below.

Iran and the Taliban do not see eye to eye, and will not be long term partners (even if short term sales benefit them both). It is possible one day that Iran and the U.S. will enter some kind of confrontation with Iran, and the U.S. is not opposed to assistance by sometimes less than reputable sources in such scenarios.
The whole enemy of my enemy thing....

I can say in the near term there is a concern about the Taliban's success to amplify terrorist activity at home (both Islamic and Anti-Government/ White Supremacist).
September 1st, 2021 at 6:26:03 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: fleaswatter
The US had been fighting the Taliban for 20 years before the US surrendered to them. Now the bidumb administration is contemplating sending them money and having the US military work with them.


For those such a fleaswatter whose grasp of modern American history is about as weak as the sneeze of a flea in a hurricane, I feel constrained to say "Marshall Plan."

Immediately after WWII ended we employed a lot of men and resources in helping the Axis powers to recover; yes, part of the aid was financial.

The Taliban are now the gov't of Afghanistan, and for better or worse we need to deal with them the same as any other country.

We don't need more pariah states like N. Korea and Iran; it seems to be what the majority of Afghans want, so what's the problem?
September 1st, 2021 at 7:47:03 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: missedhervee
For those such a fleaswatter whose grasp of modern American history is about as weak as the sneeze of a flea in a hurricane, I feel constrained to say "Marshall Plan."

Immediately after WWII ended we employed a lot of men and resources in helping the Axis powers to recover; yes, part of the aid was financial.

The Taliban are now the gov't of Afghanistan, and for better or worse we need to deal with them the same as any other country.

We don't need more pariah states like N. Korea and Iran; it seems to be what the majority of Afghans want, so what's the problem?


This will be the trade to get the rest of the Americans and other nationals out of the country. Sounds better than paying ransom.
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September 1st, 2021 at 7:49:58 PM permalink
fleaswatter
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Quote: Gandler
As for sending money to the Taliban, I don't see that in the link (or anywhere else), and its unlikely (though not impossible) that the military would work with the Taliban (in the near future).


Milley: ‘It's possible’ U.S. will work with Taliban to thwart ISIS-K

Milley: ‘Possible’ US will have to work with Taliban to fight ISIS
September 2nd, 2021 at 7:05:54 AM permalink
ams288
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The narrative is changing.

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September 2nd, 2021 at 7:30:53 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: fleaswatter


It's really not any different than our law enforcement working with criminals to get other criminals. It's both beneficial but has its own risks. OTOH, just paying people to keep the peace is a corruptive practice which is something I hope we stay away from.
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September 2nd, 2021 at 8:48:37 AM permalink
rxwine
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The Taliban wasn't designated a terrorist group by the State Department during the Trump administration. Still isn't, because it's not considered a threat to our national security interests. Isis-k, and other groups in that country are.

It's been considered to use terrorist tactics, but officially the US doesn't designate it as one as concerns us.
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