DeSantis: the real deal?

Quote: Mission146

You absolutely have to be kidding me.

Okay, so am I to understand that you see public school as a net negative? Even if so, then all the Bible-thumpers should take that initiative that they're always talking about and set up an affordable private school.

As I understand it, some states (such as WV) are even creating grants by which the Government will help out towards kids going to private schools, which includes religiously affiliated private schools. Sucks to be those kids, of course, but a good number of them are probably too far gone anyway---so if you want to isolate and indoctrinate them even more, go right ahead. At least it means less of the church's influence will touch other kids in the school system.

Quote: rxwine

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Quote: Mission146

The, "Why," is because he disagreed with the political positions that the corporation chose to adopt and promote. It's a direct Free Speech violation. This is why the Republican Party should be seen as a joke; a very high percentage of Republicans are a bunch of sanctimonious frauds.

They like, "Freedom," unless it involves someone doing something that they morally object to, Evangelicals, anyway. That's not freedom; it's a glorified theocracy. The only thing maybe worse than being a slave to the whims of the Government is being a slave to the whims of the Government who itself is a slave to a higher power which may or may not exist. LOL

They're in favor of, 'Free Speech,' unless the Free Speech is being used to promote Liberal social ideologies. That's especially true when it comes to social media outlets who would restrict the content that they allow on their platforms, to the chagrin of Evangelical mouth-breathers who, any other time, would say that a person/corporation should have the right to enforce whatever rules they want to on their own property.

Therein lies the problem. Evangelicals, which is a subset of Republicans (causing it to somewhat apply) only have selective principles. "I absolutely believe in this, unless..." "I think that's perfectly fine, except if..." Except if, what? Except if the principle should hold but you don't personally like what the person or entity is doing? Again, that's not freedom.

Bottom line: The Republican Party is totally devoid of any principles, taken as a whole. To even argue otherwise would be ridiculous.

If it makes you feel better, while I consider the Democrats more principled, it isn't by much.

Quote: DoubleGold

Yes, public schools are a net-negative.

It gets worse in secondary education.


The government should take the total cost of all schools divided by those that attend, and then give that amount to all families with children so they can choose their own school.

Anytime the government gets involved, they screw it up.

The private sector can compete to get the most students to attend their school to pay their private teachers and their own curriculum.

That will likely drive prices down and be more efficient and the student won't get as indoctrinated like at a state-sponsored school.

Quote: DoubleGold

I'll come back to your longer posts.


Many parents choose materialism over having their children being indoctrinated.

Many don't have materialism and just can't afford it so they have no choice.


Public schools are state sponsored.

They require attendance through law, so a child is guaranteed to be indoctrinated.

The exceptions are private schools and home-school.

The teachers are paid by the state.

Quote: rxwine

Yes why not let parents teach basic facts as they believe them so that some can believe up is down or down is up or whatever else anyone wants. What nonsense.

Quote: DoubleGold

Yes, public schools are a net-negative.

It gets worse in secondary education.

The government should take the total cost of all schools divided by those that attend, and then give that amount to all families with children so they can choose their own school.

Anytime the government gets involved, they screw it up.

The private sector can compete to get the most students to attend their school to pay their private teachers and their own curriculum.

That will likely drive prices down and be more efficient and the student won't get as indoctrinated like at a state-sponsored school.

Quote: Mission146

I obviously don't dispute that public schools are state-sponsored, that some states (if not all) have attendance laws of varying strictness and the fact that the teachers are paid by the state.

If public school is indoctrination, then I don't see how private school, and especially home-schooling, are not that. Private schools, in particular, if the private school in question is affiliated with a religion. Home schooling because the students can potentially not be exposed to any ideas whatsoever that might conflict with what their parents believe which, let's be honest, isn't exactly going to foster the capacity for critical thought.

Most importantly, you didn't even attempt ro answer the question of what those parents that you reference would do without there being public schools---which just happened to be the entire topic of the post of mine you quoted.

Quote: DoubleGold

The money would come from the education budget that is currently allocated.

So privatize education.

It's not fair for the rich kids to avoid the indoctrination.

Quote: DoubleGold

The way I look at the Republican Party is they freed the slaves.

They outlawed slavery.

So the other side implemented financial slavery as opposed to physical slavery.

They do this through the banking system (almost all are left-leaning).