In the News II

Quote: GenoDRPh

I issue this direct challenge to AZDuffman. Since we both care so much about women's rights in our own way, I offer to publicly oppose allowing transgendered competing in women's/girl's sports if AZDuffman publicly supports a right to chose to terminate a pregnancy due to choice, for any reason whatsoever, until viability, and for reasons of health and safety thereafter.

Such position statements include voting for politcal candidates who support our new positions.

Do we have a deal? How far does AZDuffman actually support women's rights?

Here is the problem. I do not consider the ability to tear an unborn baby to shreds "women's rights." I find it strange that so many people think abortion should be the most important thing to women.

Quote: GenoDRPh

A win for due process. Hope the next person MAGA goes after isn't you.

Turns out his lawyers and the Dems were right all along. He posed no danger to the US and wasn't a gang member. And it turns out Donny and Alina and Kristi were wrong in that the could've brought him back any time they wanted. Yet, here he is. Funny that.

A win for the GOP! The Democrats are going to be defending a gang-member thug for at leas the next year now! The can proudly say they are standing up for a an charged with human trafficing! The can say they stand up for a man who is charged with beating his wife! (But hey hey they still love abortion so are for women!)

Funny dat, indeed!

Murdering babies takes away women's rights.

It's the exact opposite what is taught in Marxist schools.


Providing life is a woman's greatest right.

So anytime the medical profession murders a baby, they're attacking women and humanity.

And in turn, affecting their conscience and the mother's conscience.


It's a major catastrophe unless forgiven.

Before long, the medical profession won't know simple stuff.

Like what a virus is.


They'll have the entire world locked down for 1% risk of death while injecting untested molecular formula.

Like chickens with their heads cut-off.

Quote: GenoDRPh

A win for due process. Hope the next person MAGA goes after isn't you.

Turns out his lawyers and the Dems were right all along. He posed no danger to the US and wasn't a gang member. And it turns out Donny and Alina and Kristi were wrong in that the could've brought him back any time they wanted. Yet, here he is. Funny that.

It’s thinking like yours that explains the devastating loss suffered by the entire Democrat party in November. You can stand on your soap box yelling due process. I prefer the guy standing on his soap box yelling ‘we deported a true scumbag, and our streets are safer’. I have no fears that ‘MAGA will go after me’. I’m not an illegal alien nor do I participate in human trafficking. If I did, yep, I’d be worried


As far as the ‘women’s rights’ discussion, I agree with you on disallowing genetically assigned males into women’s sports. And also agree on a woman’s right to abort her not yet viable fetus. But I easily understand AZ’s position that being against abortion is NOT necessarily being against ‘women’s rights’. You wouldn’t think charging a woman with murder for killing her newborn child would make you against ‘women’s rights’? The debate to me is more about when you (or society) decides an embryo/fetus/baby gets ‘rights’. Not about the ‘rights’ of the mother. Especially since the father, who will have equal rights the instant the baby is born, will have no rights until that moment.

Quote: GenoDRPh

A win for due process.

Yup. And the proper process is what matters not the outcome.

Quote: rxwine

Yup. And the proper process is what matters not the outcome.

Not so simple. A cop beats up an arrested scumbag who then reveals the whereabouts of a kidnapped child about to be fed to some pet alligators. I’ll take the saving the life of that child over the ‘process’ that was supposed to protect the kidnapper’s rights.

Rx, how many times have you been arrested and worried about ‘the process’? How about you, Geno? I’m guessing zero. I think it comes down to this. I trust the good guys. You trust the bad guys.

Quote: SOOPOO

Not so simple. A cop beats up an arrested scumbag who then reveals the whereabouts of a kidnapped child about to be fed to some pet alligators. I’ll take the saving the life of that child over the ‘process’ that was supposed to protect the kidnapper’s rights.

Rx, how many times have you been arrested and worried about ‘the process’? How about you, Geno? I’m guessing zero. I think it comes down to this. I trust the good guys. You trust the bad guys.

And if cops and DAs wish to be trusted, then they need to act trustworthy. A cop or DA who doesn't act with due process isn't trustworthy, and isn't the good guy.

And if the cop beats up an arrested scumbag who has absolutely no knowledge of a kidnapped child about to be fed to some pet alligators, what then?

Every time a cop pulls a vehicle over or stops a pedestrian or knocks on a door, due process kicks in. And yes, as citizens we should worry about it. Due process is our right, and due process protects our rights.

And you would be wrong about me being arrested zero times. That number is exactly once. And due process protected me from police brutality while it occurred-he tried to be a prick, but I didn't fall for it because I was innocent. Due process protected my right to have my rights read to me. It wasn't like in the movies-cop actually read the rights verbatim off of a card. When he was finished, I commented "You have to read that off a card every time?" He said "Every time." Due process protected my right to be held in a safe and sanitary jail cell. Due process protected my right to a bail bondsmen to come bail me out an hour or two later. Due process protected my right to appear in front of a judge with a lawyer in open court to have charges read to me. Due process protected my right to a dismissal of all charges once the DA saw the evidence and realized I didn't do it. Due process protected my right to have my lawyer interview witnesses. Due process also compelled the cops to cut me a check to reimburse me for a piece of property the cops took into evidence they later could not find. Overall, I beat the rap AND the ride.

So, over to you: Which of these rights would you have denied me? Which of these rights would have denied Garcia? Which of these rights would you have denied Donny when he was on criminal trial, or the Jan 6 defendants?

Which of these rights would you have allowed the cop who pulled the gun on you to deny?

Would you deny the right to be free of unreasonable search and seizure?

Would you deny the right to be free from arrest, except on a valid warrant or probable cause?

Would you deny the right to be free of police brutality?

Would you deny the right to be held in safe and sanitary conditions?

Would you deny the right to be free of excessive bail?

Would you deny the right to counsel?

Would you deny the right to a dismissal of charges if there isn't evidence beyond a reasonable doubt?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Quote: SOOPOO

Not so simple. A cop beats up an arrested scumbag who then reveals the whereabouts of a kidnapped child about to be fed to some pet alligators. I’ll take the saving the life of that child over the ‘process’ that was supposed to protect the kidnapper’s rights.

Rx, how many times have you been arrested and worried about ‘the process’? How about you, Geno? I’m guessing zero. I think it comes down to this. I trust the good guys. You trust the bad guys.

This is why we have the process of judges, juries and appeals. It's why I'm against mandatory sentences, and that 3 strike law I think you said you favored. It's why jury nullification happens or why someone gets the most minor sentence possible for what might be normally serious crime. And while I disagree with the convenient way some Governors and Presidents use pardons, and commutations, that is also a method for dealing with someone who might in good conscience cross the line.

But I want everyone who does choose to act that way go before judgment just like everyone else, not just dismissing civil rights violations 'casue they think they know what's best.

And this particular case we are talking about was not even in the ballpark of urgent action. It's was Trump getting a boner over abusing power and trying to ignore checks and balances.

Quote: SOOPOO

As far as the ‘women’s rights’ discussion, I agree with you on disallowing genetically assigned males into women’s sports. And also agree on a woman’s right to abort her not yet viable fetus. But I easily understand AZ’s position that being against abortion is NOT necessarily being against ‘women’s rights’. You wouldn’t think charging a woman with murder for killing her newborn child would make you against ‘women’s rights’? The debate to me is more about when you (or society) decides an embryo/fetus/baby gets ‘rights’. Not about the ‘rights’ of the mother. Especially since the father, who will have equal rights the instant the baby is born, will have no rights until that moment.

Equal rights for fathers? Where is this? Not in the USA Family Court system.

As to abortion, the "my body, my choice" thing is not as cut and dried as it seems. Do you get to use cocaine based on "my body, my choice?" Should we make all Rx drugs OTC based on it?

To make women's rights and men's rights equal, should a man be able to quit-claim rights and responsibilities? A sort of "male abortion?"

Calling it "women's rights" is a feminist thing. This is because feminists HATE motherhood. They hate women who choose to raise the kids instead of going out into the work world. The problem is too many women seek approval of what the culture says and thinks far more than men. So they see feminists on TV screaming about how much they love abortion and think they should do the same.

I do not know any great society that brags about how easy they make abortion.

Quote: AZDuffman

Equal rights for fathers? Where is this? Not in the USA Family Court system.

As to abortion, the "my body, my choice" thing is not as cut and dried as it seems. Do you get to use cocaine based on "my body, my choice?" Should we make all Rx drugs OTC based on it?

To make women's rights and men's rights equal, should a man be able to quit-claim rights and responsibilities? A sort of "male abortion?"

Calling it "women's rights" is a feminist thing. This is because feminists HATE motherhood. They hate women who choose to raise the kids instead of going out into the work world. The problem is too many women seek approval of what the culture says and thinks far more than men. So they see feminists on TV screaming about how much they love abortion and think they should do the same.

I do not know any great society that brags about how easy they make abortion.

Show me on the doll where the bad woman hurt you...