Israeli conflict

June 22nd, 2025 at 8:28:26 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: DRich
If they actually try to implement it, I would expect repercussions from multiple nations, of course led by the U.S. but UK and others will be involved.


Of course, that is my my fear, at that point it will be a full on war. And, then of course due to the "bad actions" land forces will also be needed in the country... It will be a full on war, very messy.
June 22nd, 2025 at 10:06:54 AM permalink
rxwine
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I don't think America is more safe after these bombings. It's now worse for common bombings, and terrorism. Unless Iran capitulates. Or its government collapses.
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June 22nd, 2025 at 10:44:33 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: rxwine
I don't think America is more safe after these bombings. It's now worse for common bombings, and terrorism. Unless Iran capitulates. Or its government collapses.


It is definitely less safe. If the straight gets contested this week, economy is going to be disrupted. Iran has many terror cells in the U.S. that have been waiting decades for something like this for activation.

My prediction is gas prices (and hence almost everything else,) will spike over the next two weeks. Then in about 2-3 weeks (I feel like July 10th is the date, somewhere around there anyway.) when the next batch of big tariffs go into effect another big spike on everything. This is going to be a very chaotic and expensive summer between prices and terror attacks.

We are probably entering the most unsafe and expensive summer in at least 20 years.

I hope I am wrong, this is not something that I will be thrilled about being correct on (especially because I had quite a bit of travel that I desired to do, and depending on how the next two weeks go, I may decide to avoid travel for some time.)
June 22nd, 2025 at 11:27:47 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
It is definitely less safe. If the straight gets contested this week, economy is going to be disrupted. Iran has many terror cells in the U.S. that have been waiting decades for something like this for activation.

My prediction is gas prices (and hence almost everything else,) will spike over the next two weeks. Then in about 2-3 weeks (I feel like July 10th is the date, somewhere around there anyway.) when the next batch of big tariffs go into effect another big spike on everything. This is going to be a very chaotic and expensive summer between prices and terror attacks.

We are probably entering the most unsafe and expensive summer in at least 20 years.

I hope I am wrong, this is not something that I will be thrilled about being correct on (especially because I had quite a bit of travel that I desired to do, and depending on how the next two weeks go, I may decide to avoid travel for some time.)


In the past you have been remarkably poor at predicting things having to do with Trump.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
June 22nd, 2025 at 11:35:28 AM permalink
missedhervee
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I hope the US has a strong naval presence near the strait, both land based planes, ships and subs, as Iran will once again want to mine the area and shoot at passing tankers, and really, who can blame them?

One would think that the all powerful US military would be able to detect and swat down any Iranian ships attempting to do this, and also destroy any Iranian forces who dare to challenge them.

Smell that smell
June 22nd, 2025 at 11:42:06 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: Gandler
Of course, that is my my fear, at that point it will be a full on war. And, then of course due to the "bad actions" land forces will also be needed in the country... It will be a full on war, very messy.


I don't believe Iran is capable of a full war, even their proxies can only do terrorist attacks. I read the Houthis told Iran to pound sand yesterday when they asked for help.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 22nd, 2025 at 12:04:57 PM permalink
fleaswatter
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https://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3850/67/#post230002
Quote: missedhervee
So the oaf lied yet again.

Didn't he say he'd thnk it over and announce his decision in two weeks?

Liar liar get bogged down in the mire

https://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3850/67/#post230008
Quote: missedhervee
Sorry old boy, but you're confusing talking with your cats with talking with your wife.

Hey, dementia happens.

All I said is that he lied...he did, he lied.

True fact.

I said nothing about strategy you moron.

https://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3850/68/#post230017
Quote: missedhervee
Another misdiagnosis there, doc: how's your malpractice premiums these days?

Again, my key point is only that Trump blatantly lied; I said nothing about a ground war.

Yeah, lying is a negative...didn't your mama teach you anything?

It seems you clowns will applaud the oaf for any lie, including the "stolen election" nonsense.

Trump to decide on US action in Israel-Iran conflict within two weeks

Quote:
US President Donald Trump will decide whether or not the US gets directly involved in the Iran-Israel conflict within the next two weeks, the White House has said.

In a White House press briefing, Press secretary Karoline Leavitt delivered a message directly from Trump:

"Based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks."

-emphasis above mine-

For someone who is supposedly a lawyer, you sure seem to make a lot of mistakes and also seem to have reading comprehension issues. President Trump said that he will make his decision WITHIN two weeks, not after two weeks.

Maybe this will help you.
June 22nd, 2025 at 12:07:33 PM permalink
missedhervee
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The implication was that there would be a time buffer.

He also told them they'd have to negotiate.

He gave them insufficient time to do that.

Dirty trick, but hey, it's Trump.

Portlanders object: deeply reckless
June 22nd, 2025 at 12:16:38 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: missedhervee
The implication was that there would be a time buffer.

He also told them they'd have to negotiate.

He gave them insufficient time to do that.

Dirty trick, but hey, it's Trump.

We Portlanders object: dirty trick


Frankly, I would have thought you could just say ‘Geez guys, sorry I was wrong’.

I told my lawn guy I’d get him a check within a week. I happened to see him the next day, ran inside and wrote him the check. Surprisingly, he took it without calling me a liar.

I do expect Iran to target as many soft western targets as they can. A mall here, synagogue there, a hospital elsewhere. I’m sure the same imbeciles who are pro Hamas/Palestine will show up in favor of the new terrorist attacks. It will be interesting to see if they also go after US allies like France, Britain, Germany
June 22nd, 2025 at 12:36:30 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: missedhervee


He also told them they'd have to negotiate.

He gave them insufficient time to do that.



My understanding is that the U.S. was trying to schedule an immediate meeting with Iran officials for two days but they got no response.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.