Israeli conflict

Hmmmmmm,

Bill Clinton: "We are determined to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons." (1995)

George W. Bush: "Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. Period." (2006)

Barack Obama: "I have stated that Iran will never be allowed to obtain a nuclear weapon." (2015)

Joe Biden: "We will not allow Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon." (2022)

Quote: fleaswatter

Hmmmmmm,

Bill Clinton: "We are determined to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons." (1995)

George W. Bush: "Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. Period." (2006)

Barack Obama: "I have stated that Iran will never be allowed to obtain a nuclear weapon." (2015)

Joe Biden: "We will not allow Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon." (2022)

As of 6-20-2025, there is no indication Iran ever did.

Quote: GenoDRPh

As of 6-20-2025, there is no indication Iran ever did.

And your point is???

Quote: missedhervee

To my mind, an "enemy" is by definition a country which has either attacked us militarily or one congress has declared war against: Iran is not our enemy by definition.

Lucky for us we have people in government with an IQ higher than yours making this decision. That would mean over 90 or so.

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As for nukes: sure Iran is an aggressive, angry nation, they hate Israel and with good reason: Israel is occupying Arab land without Arab permission.

Not at all. The simplest solution is get the Palestinians out of Israeli land in Gaza, move them to Israel. Same for the West Bank, but move them to Jordan. Then everyone can be happy.

Can you really blame Iran?

I can't and don't.

We keep interfering in what is their part of the world.

I hung around with some Iranian students in law school and they were cool, well educated people, just like me.

They all liked to bang nubile white American chicks and drove Firebirds with the screaming firebird on the hood: good times.

Unfortunately the whole reason Iran is a "problem" in the first place is we did a coup to overthrow a democratically elected leader in the 1950s because he wanted to nationalize the oil, so we put in place a dictator, who understandably people did not like. When resisting dictators, extremism tends to rise, so we assisted the dictator in oppression, and only an extremist could" liberate" the country.

And, now we want to "liberate" the country again and install another American back dictator, it's the definition of insanity. This does not work in Iran. We need to let them be. They wouldn't even be a problem if America didn't force a puppet leader on them in 1953.

Honestly Iran should hate the U.S., they are one country that actually has full justification to not like us and not trust us.

This ^^^

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Russia's former president said that multiple countries are poised to provide Iran with nuclear warheads after the U.S. launched strikes against three Iranian nuclear facilities.

"The enrichment of nuclear material — and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons — will continue," Dmitry Medvedev, now the deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia, said in a Sunday X post.

"A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads," Medvedev said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russian-leader-claims-multiple-countries-prepped-provide-iran-nuclear-weapons-following-us-strikes

Quote: fleaswatter

And your point is???

There was no justification for the American bombing of the three sites. I remain silent on Israel's role.

Quote: rxwine

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russian-leader-claims-multiple-countries-prepped-provide-iran-nuclear-weapons-following-us-strikes

"The irresponsible decision to subject the territory of a sovereign state to missile and bomb attacks, whatever the arguments it may be presented with, flagrantly violates international law, the Charter of the United Nations and the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council."

-This is a wild quote coming from the Russian government. (Even if I agree with the principles stated.)


Iran has friends in Russia and North Korea. And, kind of friends with China and Pakistan. It would not shock me if one of these was now willing to help them with working towards a bomb if not just straight up give them one.