Abortion

Quote: DoubleGold

It's a fallacy to think the majority prefer killing unborn humans.

The reason is because of the silent majority.

All don't normally show up in polls nor elections.

Quote: GenoDRPh

I;m completely okay with pro-life and GOP voters not showing up at the elections...

Quote: GenoDRPh

I;m completely okay with pro-life and GOP voters not showing up at the elections...

Quote: AZDuffman

Reality is not kind to you, is it? You just do not like that I am pointing out blue states doing legally similar to what you are rallying against.

Quote: DRich

You were the big unknown when I made that statement. I assumed most of your practice was in hospitals and most abortions took place outside hospitals. I will definitely defer to the doctor.

Quote: SOOPOO

The vast majority of abortions are done with just local anesthesia provided by the abortionist, and perhaps a light oral sedative that the patient takes herself. I was involved in the ones where there was a true medical reason (very rare) or a patient psychiatric issue (more common) that necessitated either general anesthesia or deep sedation.

Quote: Tanko

So there's no confusion. Anesthesia for the mother, but a fetus that can feel the agony of being torn apart, doesn't get any anesthesia.

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Utah abortion providers stumped by law requiring fetal pain relief
Nation May 10, 2016 4:39 PM EDT
SALT LAKE CITY — Utah’s first-in-the-nation requirement that fetuses receive anesthesia or painkillers before some abortions takes effect Tuesday, but doctors say it’s unnecessary and impossible to comply with.

The law requires pain relief for a fetus before any abortion at 20 weeks of gestation or later, based on the disputed premise that a fetus can feel pain at that stage.

Doctors say such pain relief is futile, and there is no science or medicine laying out how they’re supposed to administer it.

“The pain doesn’t exist, so I can’t make it go away,” said David Turok of the University of Utah’s obstetrics and gynecology department.

They hope the steps they already take to alleviate a woman’s pain during an abortion will be enough to satisfy the law.

The governor signed the measure this year after lawmakers argued the possibility of a fetus in distress made it important to act.

“If a child can experience pain, we have an obligation to protect that child,” said Republican state Sen. Curt Bramble, who sponsored the law.

No legal challenge has been filed over the law, but abortion providers and abortion-rights activists say that might be because no patient attempting to have an abortion has been forced to undergo some new kind of anesthesia or painkilling treatment.

Women undergoing an abortion after 20 weeks usually have at least moderate sedation, but there’s no science or medical standard for eliminating pain felt by a fetus, said Leah Torres, a Salt Lake City obstetrician-gynecologist.

Quote: GenoDRPh

So?