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November 4th, 2025 at 7:42:53 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: odiousgambit
He will have trouble getting the things he wants, of course

picking a few,

Rent control has been done before, and in fact exists for a few in NYC, so I think Mumdummy will get some sort of extension on that

Some token subsidized new housing, other token affordable housing ideas will happen

City-run grocery stores with lower prices? I hope so since it will another reminder of how socialist ideas in this realm become a joke, it will be ration coupons galore with attendant empty shelves, or if not a complete scandal as a monumental money loser

Free bus rides? Something will happen here, soon deemed to be unsatisfactory especially for those who used to use buses

no cost child care ... not a chance, maybe a few low income people will be selected for subsidizing, for show. Other education changes will be token or not enacted at all.

quotes from https://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform

"the Mamdani administration will provide new parents and guardians with a collection of essential goods and resources, free of charge, including items like diapers, baby wipes, nursing pads, post-partum pads, swaddles, and books." Something token is always possible, but in any kind of scale this ain't happening

" The Mamdani administration will protect LGBTQIA+ New Yorkers by expanding and protecting gender-affirming care citywide, making NYC an LGBTQIA+ sanctuary city, and creating the Office of LGBTQIA+ Affairs." This will be completely enacted in full, except the alphabet soup is too restricted and under criticism will expand to the full alpahabet plus some others, like Cyrillic

Healthcare ideas will not happen, except more abortion facilities


Boston has some fare-free bus lines. Ridership increased and travel times decreased. Paid for by the city.

There will be no shortage of baby product companies falling over themselves to provide coupons for free items for newborns born in the city. Good marketing, increases brand loyalty and is a tax write-off. They already do that in partnership with hospitals.

Got a problem with minority groups being protected from discrimination and prejudice?

Abortion should be safe and easily available so the gravid can make informed choices.
November 4th, 2025 at 8:35:55 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
https://www.ruralgrocery.org/learn/publications/case-studies/

Basically all of these are rural towns/cities of less than a 1000 (usually way less.) And, virtually all are deep red.

Kansas has several. Florida had one (closed in 2024.). Wisconsin is in the process of opening one. Illinois has several, and not just in Chicago, rural areas...

And, if you count military commissaries (grocery stores on military bases), the federal government owns a large chain of grocery stores.

So, no, it is not unheard of. Most locally owned ones are in red areas, usually when a town is so small or remote it is not worth a company to open a full service grocery store.

I have no issue with NYC opening their own chain of grocery stores as well.


Can't at all compare a grocery in a small, rural area with opening them in a major metro. Not remotely the same thing. Tons of different problems. And trying to bring a military base commissary into it is more than intellectually dishonest, it is silly.

Groceries in metro areas usually go out of business due to shrink. They get shoplifted to death. The business is there, not the case for the "red" examples you give. And having one "government" grocery in a very rural area is not the same as a city opening a chain of them.

NYC opening grocery stores is a horrible idea. It will be a money sink and take a decade to get out of the business.
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November 4th, 2025 at 8:48:09 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Can't at all compare a grocery in a small, rural area with opening them in a major metro. Not remotely the same thing. Tons of different problems. And trying to bring a military base commissary into it is more than intellectually dishonest, it is silly.

Groceries in metro areas usually go out of business due to shrink. They get shoplifted to death. The business is there, not the case for the "red" examples you give. And having one "government" grocery in a very rural area is not the same as a city opening a chain of them.

NYC opening grocery stores is a horrible idea. It will be a money sink and take a decade to get out of the business.


It's actually not a difference. For whatever reason the private sector determined that those locations are not profitable and won't open full service grocery stores. And, the city combats this by opening a city owned grocery store run by city employees.

The Commissaries are Federally Owned grocery stores. They literally are a chain of grocery stores operated by a Federal Agency. It is a Federal example. But, I agree not a perfect equivalent for local government.

Anyway, first you were saying there are no such thing as City owned grocery stores. Now, you don't like my examples because random towns in Kansas are not exactly the same as NYC...

Government even city government owned groceries stores exist in America, and largely are successful because they are exempt from taxes and don't have to make a profit. Could NYC mess this up? Maybe, time will tell... But, I have no issue with them trying it in neighborhoods that lack grocers. Ultimately, I don't live there, and have no desire to, so it is up to the residents of NYC to decide.
November 4th, 2025 at 9:54:15 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: odiousgambit
Rent control has been done before, and in fact exists for a few in NYC, so I think Mumdummy will get some sort of extension on that


There are about 20,000 rent controlled apartments in NYC, and nearly one million rent stabilized apartments. Mandami lives in one with his wife.

2 to 2.5 million million NYC residents live in rent stabilized apartments.

There's a milion votes right there.

Landlords oppose a freeze because their costs of ownership increase every year.

'While rental affordability has worsened considerably in New York City in recent years, price escalation is even worse in the homeownership market.... Put another way, median rent has increased 32%, while the median homeownership price has increased 74%.'

https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/spotlight-new-york-citys-homeowner-housing-market/
November 4th, 2025 at 10:30:57 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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I think the city owned grocery stores rank among his worst ideas. There are those supermarket/grocery stores/bodega owners that opened their stores in good faith expecting to have competition from other such stores. How does one compete with the tax dollar subsidized ones Mamdani wants to build? The silly examples of rural tax funded stores are for where there are NO such stores!

NYState has already lost hunks of the top earners due to the ridiculously high State Income Tax. Add the expected increase in NYC’s income tax (yes, NYC has its own added income tax!) and expect the exodus to increase.

Now that I think about it, I’m among the ones who left. My radiology friend just left to Pennsylvania of all places. 3 separate friends all hit the trail to Vegas. Another ex anesthesiology partner just moved to Venice, Florida.

You tax someone to give others free or subsidized stuff, they leave if it’s feasible. With the ‘work from home’ availability that keeps expanding, and the availability of low/no tax states like Nevada/Florida, expect the Blue state exodus to continue.
November 4th, 2025 at 6:54:15 PM permalink
rxwine
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I turned on FOX around 940pm and Hannity was talking really sad, so I knew things were going well.
Trump is not a genius; you're just dumb.
November 4th, 2025 at 7:49:25 PM permalink
rxwine
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I do worry that too many Democrats will think the Mamdami election was about Democratic socialism and take things too far, whereas I believe it was more about Mamdami himself and his well-run campaign. He read the room, put the work in, and it paid off. And another person saying the same words wouldn't necessarily have pulled it off.
Trump is not a genius; you're just dumb.
November 4th, 2025 at 8:59:45 PM permalink
terapined1
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Quote: Tanko
There are about 20,000 rent controlled apartments in NYC, and nearly one million rent stabilized apartments. Mandami lives in one with his wife.

2 to 2.5 million million NYC residents live in rent stabilized apartments.

There's a milion votes right there.

Landlords oppose a freeze because their costs of ownership increase every year.

'While rental affordability has worsened considerably in New York City in recent years, price escalation is even worse in the homeownership market.... Put another way, median rent has increased 32%, while the median homeownership price has increased 74%.'

https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/spotlight-new-york-citys-homeowner-housing-market/

Lol
Your side ran Sliwa
ROTFL
He's a clown playing dress up with that dumb red beret
71 years old and he still plays dress up

Are you leaving the Greatest City on the planet??????????
Nope
November 4th, 2025 at 9:11:04 PM permalink
terapined1
Member since: Nov 26, 2024
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Quote: SOOPOO
I think the city owned grocery stores rank among his worst ideas. There are those supermarket/grocery stores/bodega owners that opened their stores in good faith expecting to have competition from other such stores. How does one compete with the tax dollar subsidized ones Mamdani wants to build? The silly examples of rural tax funded stores are for where there are NO such stores!

NYState has already lost hunks of the top earners due to the ridiculously high State Income Tax. Add the expected increase in NYC’s income tax (yes, NYC has its own added income tax!) and expect the exodus to increase.

Now that I think about it, I’m among the ones who left. My radiology friend just left to Pennsylvania of all places. 3 separate friends all hit the trail to Vegas. Another ex anesthesiology partner just moved to Venice, Florida.

You tax someone to give others free or subsidized stuff, they leave if it’s feasible. With the ‘work from home’ availability that keeps expanding, and the availability of low/no tax states like Nevada/Florida, expect the Blue state exodus to continue.

Elections have consequences
When Trumpers CAN'T deal with reality
They turn to anecdotal stories that are meaningless
The reality is top earners are not leaving
They Love NYC just like Tanko
Tanko ain't leaving

From AI
"Data shows that top earners leave New York State at a much lower rate than other income groups and tend to move to other high-tax states, with migration patterns unaffected by tax increases. While there was a temporary increase in high-earner departures during the pandemic, migration rates returned to pre-Covid levels in 2022. In recent years, middle and lower-income earners have left the state at higher rates than the wealthiest residents. "
November 4th, 2025 at 9:23:17 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
Member since: Aug 24, 2023
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Quote: terapined1
Elections have consequences
When Trumpers CAN'T deal with reality
They turn to anecdotal stories that are meaningless
The reality is top earners are not leaving
They Love NYC just like Tanko
Tanko ain't leaving

From AI
"Data shows that top earners leave New York State at a much lower rate than other income groups and tend to move to other high-tax states, with migration patterns unaffected by tax increases. While there was a temporary increase in high-earner departures during the pandemic, migration rates returned to pre-Covid levels in 2022. In recent years, middle and lower-income earners have left the state at higher rates than the wealthiest residents. "


We see this in Boston, too. Affordability caused primarily by housing shortage is the problem.
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