Mandami

Quote: missedhervee

How and why did Mamdani get elected?

He won because most New York voters remember all the damage dirtbag Cuomo did as governor.

Quote: missedhervee

Most New Yorkers are not democratic socialists: maybe one-quarter?

Which of course begs the question: How and why did Mamdani get elected?

Because the choice is Mandani, Cuomo, and some loony paramilitary vigalante who patrols the streets in military berets.

Cuomo, we all know why people don't trust him (right or wrong, the perspective is our there.)
The Republican, even a normal one has 0% chance to win, so you know....

That leaves Mandami.

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Because the choice is Mandani, Cuomo, and some loony paramilitary vigalante who patrols the streets in military berets.

Cuomo, we all know why people don't trust him (right or wrong, the perspective is our there.)
The Republican, even a normal one has 0% chance to win, so you know....

That leaves Mandami.

Fair enough.

Now, let me reframe the question: Why did the democrats even allow a democratic socialist to run as their candidate, as opposed to a true democrat?

He could and should have run on his own, democratic socialist ticket.

There's a difference between the two...or is there?

Quote: missedhervee

Fair enough.

Now, let me reframe the question: Why did the democrats even allow a democratic socialist to run as their candidate, as opposed to a true democrat?

He could and should have run on his own, democratic socialist ticket.

There's a difference between the two...or is there?

Well he ran in the NYC Mayoral Democratic primary and won. So apparently that is who NYC Democrats wanted to represent them.

I don't think he needs his own ticket. That is like saying libertarians should not be allowed to run in Republican primaries, they should only be allowed to run via the Libertarian Party.

The reality is you need to choose Democrat or GOP to have a chance of winning a mainstream election. And he won the primary this year and now the general, so good for him, let's see if his policies work. Personally I don't live there, so it won't directly effect me at all other than to spectate and gauge the success of his various policies, which could be an interesting experiment for other large cities.

OK, got it.

But why did the NYC democratic party even allow an avowed democratic socialist to run as a democrat in the primary?

Can they not control who is allowed to run as a democrat?

For example, say Enrigque Tarrio, the conviced former Proud Boy leader, or some other figure well known as NOT supporting the democrats decided to run in the primary as a democrat.

Could it have been prevented, i.e. is there a mechanism to prevent other than known, vetted democrats from running as such, and if not, why the hell not?

Only chaos ensues.

Quote: missedhervee

OK, got it.

But why did the NYC democratic party even allow an avowed democratic socialist to run as a democrat in the primary?

Can they not control who is allowed to run as a democrat"

For example, say Enrigque Tarrio, the conviced former Proud Boy leader, or some other figure well known as NOT supporting the democrats decided to run in the primary as a democrat.

Could it have been prevented, or is there a mechanism to prevent other than vetted democrats from running as such, and if not, why the hell not?

Only chaos ensues.

He was able to run because he is a member of the Democratic party and otherwise met the legal requirements for office, whatever those happened to be.

If the Democratic party leadership wanted to kick him out of the party for breaking their rules, they can do that. Same with the Republican party or other political parties.

But why would they want to? He hasn't broken any of their rules, and just won the election to be mayor of the majorist of US cities.

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He was able to run because he is a member of the Democratic party and otherwise met the legal requirements for office, whatever those happened to be.

If the Democratic party leadership wanted to kick him out of the party for breaking their rules, they can do that. Same with the Republican party or other political parties.

But why would they want to? He hasn't broken any of their rules, and just won the election to be mayor of the majorist of US cities.

Perhaps because he's an avowed democratic socialist and not a plain-Jane democrat?

But thanks, that's as far down this rabbit hole as I care to explore.

Whatever, I wish him luck...well played!

Quote: missedhervee

Perhaps because he's an avowed democratic socialist and not a plain-Jane democrat?

But thanks, that's as far down this rabbit hole as I care to explore.

Whatever, I wish him luck...well played!

Well in my mind the key word is "democratic" in "democratic socialist". On can espouse and favor socialist economic and social policy, and still be committed to democratic, electoral, pluralistic government.

Quote: missedhervee

Fair enough.

Now, let me reframe the question: Why did the democrats even allow a democratic socialist to run as their candidate, as opposed to a true democrat?

He could and should have run on his own, democratic socialist ticket.

There's a difference between the two...or is there?

Hard to raise $$$ on your own. Even if you do, you're running against the parties' deep pockets.

I guess I am surprised that an avowed democratic socialist was allowed to run as a democrat.

The Democrat Socialists of America exist as a political and activist organization in the USA but it seems they have no party in their own name.

Dunno, just strikes me as "odd."