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May 10th, 2021 at 3:04:40 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
Probably because it has been true all of your life. We have many States that are lagging behind in infrastructure (and have been for decades). Many conservatives will say that it is their responsibility to fix it locally, but this is not true, there needs to be Federal Funds.


The point is no matter what we do we will hear about "crumbling infrastructure." It is one of the best excuses for pork.


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The Federal government will also need to play a big role in making routes more EV friendly, which will probably involve spending billions on EV installation on routes around the country, there is no market for this to happen organically.


Why on earth should the feds be spending money to promote EVs? If they are so great, why do they get a tax break? And if so many people want them then why to the feds need to install charging stations? If there is no market it is for a reason. Let EVs compete on their merits.
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May 10th, 2021 at 6:09:52 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: AZDuffman
The point is no matter what we do we will hear about "crumbling infrastructure." It is one of the best excuses for pork.


Like climate change. That Infrastructure plan includes more than $600 billion to tackle climate change, despite Biden admitting it isn't going to matter.

"The United States accounts, as all of you know, less than 15% of carbon emissions. The rest of the world accounts for 85%. That is why I kept my commitment to rejoin the Paris Accord because if we do everything perfectly, it's not going to ultimately matter." - Biden

May 10th, 2021 at 6:20:42 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
The point is no matter what we do we will hear about "crumbling infrastructure." It is one of the best excuses for pork.




Why on earth should the feds be spending money to promote EVs? If they are so great, why do they get a tax break? And if so many people want them then why to the feds need to install charging stations? If there is no market it is for a reason. Let EVs compete on their merits.


Because infrastructure constantly needs repair. You don't just pave a road and it stays perfect forever, it's an ongoing project. Not to mention the more frequent restripping (lanes warnings etc), sign replacement, pot hole filling. And, that is just roads. Infrastructure is something that is always ongoing, and as many States and Cities are underfunded, it almost always is constantly crumbling.
May 10th, 2021 at 6:43:19 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
Because infrastructure constantly needs repair. You don't just pave a road and it stays perfect forever, it's an ongoing project. Not to mention the more frequent restripping (lanes warnings etc), sign replacement, pot hole filling. And, that is just roads. Infrastructure is something that is always ongoing, and as many States and Cities are underfunded, it almost always is constantly crumbling.


We pay gas taxes to maintain the roads. The bill Biden is pushing is just pork for his supporters in the political class. They always are.
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May 10th, 2021 at 6:45:08 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Tanko
Like climate change. That Infrastructure plan includes more than $600 billion to tackle climate change, despite Biden admitting it isn't going to matter

It matters despite what Biden says
Hey Tanko, Trump or Cheney
Cat got your tongue lol

You keep blaming Biden when you really need to blame Trump
Is Trump doing everything to win the House next year????????????????
Nope
He's insisting that republicans look for bamboo pulp in ballot paper
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May 10th, 2021 at 8:46:58 AM permalink
ams288
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Democrats were clearly just trying to save idiot republicans from themselves:

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May 10th, 2021 at 11:18:45 AM permalink
rxwine
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Democrats were clearly just trying to save idiot republicans from themselves:



From what I’ve read about it, they’ve succeeded in muddying the audit process instead of establishing some hoped for increased level of legitimacy.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
May 10th, 2021 at 12:27:42 PM permalink
terapined
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Democrats were clearly just trying to save idiot republicans from themselves:



From what I’ve read about it, they’ve succeeded in muddying the audit process instead of establishing some hoped for increased level of legitimacy.

I'm hoping Republicans determine it's a waste of time to vote because the fix is in LOL
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May 11th, 2021 at 4:33:14 PM permalink
SOOPOO
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Democrats were clearly just trying to save idiot republicans from themselves:



From what I’ve read about it, they’ve succeeded in muddying the audit process instead of establishing some hoped for increased level of legitimacy.

I'm hoping Republicans determine it's a waste of time to vote because the fix is in LOL


You don’t have to hope. It happened last November. It will happen again. Ams is also right with his mean tweets comment. It is symptomatic of Trump. Not the disease itself.
May 11th, 2021 at 5:36:27 PM permalink
rxwine
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I laughed out loud when some lady on MSNBC just referred to Mike Pence as an "invertebrate."
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.