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| January 4th, 2022 at 2:08:16 PM permalink | |
| Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
How much do you expect the stock market to, "Roar back," by? Stock valuations are almost up across the board (and certainly Indexes are) compared with pre Covid-19 numbers, which implies that (as a country) we are in better shape than we were prior to Covid-19...which I think is debatable. I think we both agree that the POTUS doesn't really have much of an influence on the broader market regardless of who the POTUS is, but that being said, where would you expect, for example, the Dow to be right now? I think if we had markets that were more focused on current fundamentals and less on speculation, then they would be down compared to 01/2020, or what have you, and wouldn't have been where they were even then to begin with. That said, the market speculation that basically amounted to, "The end of the world is nigh," that was happening as of 03/2020 and persisted until the end of the shutdowns made it so that people could have some serious gainers by buying based on the fundamentals compared to what the stock prices were...for those willing to assume anything better than a doomsday scenario, anyway. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
| January 4th, 2022 at 2:19:02 PM permalink | |
| terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 76 Posts: 12501 |
WTF Nobody is punking us. So absurd. The entire planet is preoccupied with domestic problems regarding Omicron. Russia is not invading Ukraine and China is not invading Taiwan Its because Russia and China don't want to poke the USA regardless of who is President You are so absurd. Biden or any President does not scare anybody The US military scares countries regardless of who is President Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
| January 4th, 2022 at 2:25:39 PM permalink | |
| missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 160 Posts: 5496 | I do fault American politicians for their continued fear and ostracization of Russia / Putin. The USSR is gone. Russia is not communist. Drop the barriers and see what happens. As for China, I see them as more of a threat; sort of like Japan pre-WWII; they need resources (oil) and feel it is in their best interest to extend their sphere of influence. China can be held in check much easier if Russia and the West cooperate. |
| January 4th, 2022 at 7:44:18 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 217 Posts: 22942 |
Maybe as soon as Putin's political opponents and vocal critics stop mysteriously falling out of windows, suffer mob style hits, get killed with KGB grade poisons, or end up in Siberia on nebulous charges it might look a bit more democratic. "Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP. |
| January 4th, 2022 at 8:28:52 PM permalink | |
| kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4530 |
Russia is a good example of where you end up when you end up when you endorse "the end justify the means". A policy that is usually fully supported by the lefties. No freedom is so important that it can't be sacrificed for the 'good of the people'. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
| January 4th, 2022 at 10:31:12 PM permalink | |
| missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 160 Posts: 5496 | Russia is an autocracy: granted. Russia engages in dirty tricks: granted. But so do we. I don't believe their dirty tricks justify thinking of them as boogeymen. Russia has a history of being isolated from the west yet wanting to participate to the degree possible on the world stage, from Peter the Great forward. They were our ally in WWII; as we descend as a world power and China ascends we'll need as many strong allies as possible to keep the Chinese in check. Remember the Mongols? They were Chinese and at one time, due to their military prowess, they nearly ruled the known world. Let us not allow that to happen again. |
| January 5th, 2022 at 3:22:46 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 137 Posts: 21195 |
Now, was it here or on the other side where people got upset when I said beware a law defended as "for the common good?" War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength |
| January 5th, 2022 at 3:33:23 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 137 Posts: 21195 |
Geopolitically Russia needs to be contained. A saying is "he who controls Eurasia controls the world." Only Russia can control Eurasia at the moment. Because of less than ideal geography and a history of being backwards she never has. Putin is a very strong leader maybe the best they have had since Peter the Great. But like Peter, Putin cannot change this in one generation. However, that is a chance we do not take. The USA plays for keeps in world power. Russia gets friendly with Europe and things change. Hitler had the right idea about extending the railroads and autobahns to Moscow. Do that and you get an area superpower in both resources and industry. Eventually either Russia would dominate the EU or Germany would dominate Russia. In geopower gaming you tend to want to keep balance of power as-is if you are on top. USA is om top so we do not want this, even as our leaders say otherwise. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength |
| January 5th, 2022 at 5:34:36 AM permalink | |
| Tanko Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 0 Posts: 2470 | CNN fired Andy Cohen following his drunken New Years Eve sendoff to outgoing Mayor Bill de Blasio, on live television. |
| January 5th, 2022 at 5:37:24 AM permalink | |
| ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 13466 |
Did they fire him? Last I saw, they said he would be back next year. And he was absolutely right about DeBlasio. Both libbies and righties hate his guts. “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |