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Something is going to come out about this shooter. He lived south of Binghamton. If he did drive that far I ask why. Nobody would drive that far for a random shooting spree. Could have gone to Scranton, Binghamton, Syracuse, Rochester, or other places along the way.

Detectives should be sweating him to find his connection to that store.

Quote: Gandler

I would guess 1 and 3 are Tucker Carlson, they are phrased in a way that sounds like he talks (at least reading them in my head).

He likes to say "Nobody is allowed to ask the question" (after asking the question). (for 3)
And, I have heard him say a similar quote comparing marriage to immigration in a debate so that sounds like a talking point of his (for 1).

2 just does not seem to be in his tone when I read it. It sounds like a similar point, but just not the way he talks. (Of course, if these quotes are from writings, then my chain of logic goes out the window, but I am assuming they are all from speaking).

You are correct. 1 and 3 were from Tucker.

It seems the shooter was not a fan of The people at Fox mentioned as being his inspiration by the lefties.

He claims to be an “authoritarian left-winger””….

Another left wing narrative seems to hit the crapper.

Likely he just hates everyone.

Quote: RonC

It seems the shooter was not a fan of The people at Fox mentioned as being his inspiration by the lefties.

He claims to be an “authoritarian left-winger””….

Another left wing narrative seems to hit the crapper.

Likely he just hates everyone.

We can expect our righties to pivot to “false flag” once this nonsense gains no traction.

Quote: RonC

It seems the shooter was not a fan of The people at Fox mentioned as being his inspiration by the lefties.

He claims to be an “authoritarian left-winger””….

Another left wing narrative seems to hit the crapper.

Likely he just hates everyone.

I don't know if it matters. Apparantly there is a 200 page manifesto somewhere online that would probably get to the bottom of this, if you feel like reading 200 pages of crazy rantings.

But, regardless of his political views, he was clearly racist. He even said he went to Buffalo because it was the closest "black city".

His statements that Jews are increasing the immigration numbers from behind the scenes sounds like something straight out Marjorie Taylor Greene's playbook, so I would lean towards hin being conservative.

But, again at the end of the day he was clearly racist and crazy. And, the obsession to lump him into a party (or out of) is strange.

What is an "authoritarian left-winger" anyway?

Quote: Gandler

I don't know if it matters. Apparantly there is a 200 page manifesto somewhere online that would probably get to the bottom of this, if you feel like reading 200 pages of crazy rantings.

But, regardless of his political views, he was clearly racist. He even said he went to Buffalo because it was the closest "black city".

His statements that Jews are increasing the immigration numbers from behind the scenes sounds like something straight out Marjorie Taylor Greene's playbook, so I would lean towards hin being conservative.

But, again at the end of the day he was clearly racist and crazy. And, the obsession to lump him into a party (or out of) is strange.

What is an "authoritarian left-winger" anyway?

Crazy is the correct word. My comment was not to blame the left or to think that it matters what he said in his writings; he was clearly unhinged and had been for a while. Crazy people write crazy stuff and that does not excuse his actions or make it someone else’s fault. We love to try and blame the actions of a psycho on some faction or another. My main point is that there is more to how he got there than some TV personalities. He obviously was into the depths of crazed racism that exists far outside the mainstream of anything we see on TV. Taking something said on TV to the extreme, we could have a summer of being ungovernable, a SC Justice attacked, etc. based on taking the words of some people literally. The same can be said of the words of people on the other side.

Quote: RonC

He obviously was into the depths of crazed racism that exists far outside the mainstream of anything we see on TV.

You sure about that?

Quote: ams288

You sure about that?

I did not say that he did not use words that he may have heard on TV; my point is that he is full goose bozo and has taken thoughts expressed way beyond their intended meanings.

Someone on the left said that this was going to be a summer of being ungovernable; I don’t expect the left, as a whole…or even as a large part, to actually become “ungovernable.” I expect the strong language is meant to fire up the crowd, keep the protests going, etc. if some nut does something horrible based on those words, it is the nut’s fault. Of course, I also hope that the crowds protest peacefully and things don’t get burned. That would also be criminal.

As long as we live, there will be nuts out there. We need to do our best to find them before they do something horrible and it looks like we may have fallen short in this case. I loathe this person.

If you want it to be about a nut to try and silence speech that does not fit your agenda, that is your problem. Clearly the points that he may have echoed in the manifesto were not meant to bring about killings.

I know that I am wasting my time writing anything engaging you, so go ahead and say stuff about me and whatever. I am going to put you back on ignore. It has made the experience here much better overall.

Quote: RonC

Crazy is the correct word. My comment was not to blame the left or to think that it matters what he said in his writings; he was clearly unhinged and had been for a while. Crazy people write crazy stuff and that does not excuse his actions or make it someone else’s fault. We love to try and blame the actions of a psycho on some faction or another. My main point is that there is more to how he got there than some TV personalities. He obviously was into the depths of crazed racism that exists far outside the mainstream of anything we see on TV. Taking something said on TV to the extreme, we could have a summer of being ungovernable, a SC Justice attacked, etc. based on taking the words of some people literally. The same can be said of the words of people on the other side.

The interesting thing is what defines crazy when it comes to a mass shooting or terrorist?

Its easy to point to lonely reclusive people with strange personalities to be crazy. But, when highly educated, highly successful people engage in such acts are they crazy? Or if they are following the logical extension of their belief system are they not?

An easy example that both the left and right can agree on are Islamic terrorists and shooters, because many are highly successful (advanced degrees, high level jobs etc....), families, often well-liked socially, etc.... Until the day that they are not.

It's easy to paint an odd person who lives with their parents and has no job as crazy and not following a principle, but would it change if he had an M.D. and owned a buisness? It just cuts to the question of what is truly crazy and what is a logical extension of a belief system.

Even Janurary 6th, lots of highly successful people amongst those arrested. And, they were following an extension of their beliefs (that the election was fraud).

Quote: Gandler

The interesting thing is what defines crazy when it comes to a mass shooting or terrorist?

Its easy to point to lonely reclusive people with strange personalities to be crazy. But, when highly educated, highly successful people engage in such acts are they crazy? Or if they are following the logical extension of their belief system are they not?

An easy example that both the left and right can agree on are Islamic terrorists and shooters, because many are highly successful (advanced degrees, high level jobs etc....), families, often well-liked socially, etc.... Until the day that they are not.

It's easy to paint an odd person who lives with their parents and has no job as crazy and not following a principle, but would it change if he had an M.D. and owned a buisness? It just cuts to the question of what is truly crazy and what is a logical extension of a belief system.

Even Janurary 6th, lots of highly successful people amongst those arrested. And, they were following an extension of their beliefs (that the election was fraud).

There is a fringe on either end of the spectrum that have ideas unacceptable to almost everyone besides their fellow fringe folks. In that group, there are some that act on it in some way. Holding a rally or march is one thing; taking criminal actions is another.

I really don’t understand January 6th and what made certain people act the way they did. Going to the Capitol is a lot different than attacking the Capitol. In the same way, though not the same type of attack, what makes people burn down buildings and throw dangerous objects instead of just protesting peacefully? I don’t know where either of those mindsets develop.

People are weird.