Gigafactory
April 6th, 2016 at 10:34:49 AM permalink | |
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 |
I read on Drudge/Breitbart that the Nevada gigafactory "construction workers" are actors, too.
Let's look at some real world numbers. In 2015, Tesla sold 50,000 vehicles at an average price of $80,000. That is the same number of the Mercedes E-Class autos, which are priced much lower in the $50,000 range. And if you compare to the top line Mercedes S-Class, (which is only slightly more expensive at an average $90,0000), the Model S sold over 2 times the 22,000 units Mercedes sold. And while other manufacturers are happy with single digit percentage volume growth, in Q4 Tesla shipments were 75% greater in 2015 than 2014. The term "unviable idea" probably isn't the best description of a luxury automaker outselling Mercedes-Benz S-Class by a ratio of 2 to 1.
I agree 100%. Current TSLA market cap is an $36 billion. (Ford is $51 billion.) Tesla's cars are completely viable. But (right now) their stock is a total rip-off. |
April 6th, 2016 at 12:40:03 PM permalink | |
TheCesspit Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 1929 | The P/E ratio on TSLA is sky high for the next four quarters estimates, obviously as they haven't shown a profit yet, there's no historical measure. The price/sales ratio is 9. Which means they do 1/9th in total sales per year of the market cap. That's bananas compared to Ford's 0.34. So the stock seems well over priced as I can't see where the sales growth can come from to get to more 'normal' ratios. This isn't an early stage company with massive headroom for growth. It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die.... it's called Life |
April 6th, 2016 at 12:45:20 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 | Isn't an unrealistic stock price common for hyped-up, trendy start-ups with celebrity CEOs? Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
April 6th, 2016 at 1:29:28 PM permalink | |
TheCesspit Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 1929 |
Sure. Facebook has a similar high ratios. I just wouldn't call Tesla a start up, nor would I call Facebook one anymore. It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die.... it's called Life |
April 6th, 2016 at 1:41:00 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
I call it a start-up until it makes money outside the stock market. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
April 6th, 2016 at 4:43:14 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18216 |
I missed that one, you have the link?
What is the profit of each company? The President is a fink. |
April 23rd, 2016 at 5:44:40 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18770 | Some battery research news
http://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/2016/0423/Scientists-accidentally-discover-the-secret-to-long-lived-batteries You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
June 2nd, 2016 at 10:30:26 AM permalink | |
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 |
When I watched this 2 minute video about converting a 1978 Ferrari 308GTS (the car was in bad shape from a fuel leak fire) into an all-electric monster, I immediately thought of Face. It's got 330 ft lbs of torque, and yes it can do 84 mph in second gear... |
July 12th, 2016 at 2:35:37 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18216 | Elon Musk’s pedestal is crumbling, exposing Tesla risks Time will tell if this is a bump they recover from or the whole house of cards gets knocked over. I find it interesting that the company was doing a stock offering. Sure, sell when the market is hot, but should they really need to dilute the stock already? Musk at the least needs to learn how to handle a PR problem a lot better. The President is a fink. |
September 8th, 2016 at 7:50:20 AM permalink | |
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 |
Mercedes's push into electric cars is bigger than previously reported.
Audi plans to launch a dedicated electric model in 2018. Volvo plans a Model S rival, which will arrive in 2019 and share its underpinnings with the S90, V90 and XC90. Jaguar Land Rover is expected to debut a battery-powered concept in November at the Los Angeles Auto Show. And Porsche is spending US$1.12 billion to build an electric car. |