Pro forma party orimaries
August 4th, 2015 at 3:55:59 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Final list (3 current governors, 2 former governors, 3 current senators, Carson & Trump
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August 4th, 2015 at 4:06:53 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
I'm not sure I dislike the GOP enough to want to see them lose all 50 states. I am sure I dislike the Democrats enough NOT to want to see them win all 50 states.
His best chance to win in the general election is to change his name to "Jeb Smith." Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
August 4th, 2015 at 4:11:52 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
Debates among candidates for the 2016 Democratic Party U.S. presidential nomination 1 August/September 2015 Iowa TBD 2 August/September 2015 New Hampshire TBD 3 October/November 2015 South Carolina TBD 4 November/December 2015 Nevada TBD 5 January 2016 Iowa TBD 6 January 2016 TBD TBD So far no one is signed up for any debates. Clinton will probably make minimal eye contact with the other contestants, and stick to speeches addressing the moderator. Clinton Chafee O'Malley Sanders Webb The general feeling is that Biden will join in about debate #4. His son, "Beau" Biden III died on May 30, 2015. |
August 4th, 2015 at 8:55:28 PM permalink | |
TheCesspit Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 1929 | If your the front runner by enough of margin, but not got the plurality, let the other schmucks debate amongst each other, find the chinks in the armour, then you can come out swinging against the closest rival. It worked for David Cameron in the UK election, Stephen Harper in Canada is trying something similar. It could backfire, but in the world of aggressive attack politics, let you and him fight. It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die.... it's called Life |
August 4th, 2015 at 9:39:44 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
I think there is a difference in how BrE and AmE uses the word "plurality" Example:Alice polling 40 votes, Bob 31, and Carol 29. A Briton might say "Alice won with a majority of 9" (quote from Wikipedia) In USA typically say Alice won with a "plurality". In AmE typically we only use the word "majority" if that person exceeds 50%. The AmE sense for "plurality" from 1828, but is not the traditional meaning of the word. In the May NH State Poll, which included Elizabeth Warren on its list of candidates. In that poll, Clinton stood at 51%, with Warren at 20% and Sanders at 13%. In June according to a new CNN/WMUR New Hampshire Primary poll, there were 43% behind Clinton and 35% backing Sanders. So we would say she had a majority, and now has a "plurality". |
August 5th, 2015 at 9:22:17 AM permalink | |
TheCesspit Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 1929 | This Briton got his terms mixed up and meant to say 'majority' not plurality. It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die.... it's called Life |
August 5th, 2015 at 1:58:01 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
I wasn't sure since I read some of these comments and I wonder if modern media has brought the languages closer. Every US presidential election except 1824 was won by a majority of electoral college votes. It was after this election that AmE began to use "plurality" to mean winning the most votes, but less than 50%.
Elections won with a plurality of popular votes
Popular slang often blames these elections on a "spoiler" who split the vote and gave the election to the winner of the plurality. Ross Perot is known as the spoiler of 1992 (18.9%) but less so in 1996 (8.4%). There are some analysts who believe Bill Clinton would have won in 1992 regardless. Former Republican President Teddy Roosevelt (27.4%) was considered the "spoiler" of the 1912 election, but the socialist candidate Eugene V. Debs (6.0%). Teddy Roosevelt carried 6 states while the incumbent Republican President Taft only carried 2 states. |