Pope Francis Visit
September 25th, 2015 at 8:40:22 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
Who said anything about making them change their beliefs? I'm just pointing out it's bigotry no matter which way you look at it. If they want to be bigots, that's their business. Just don't try and pretend it's something other than what it is. The Church practices bigotry. They like to call it other things, but it's bigotry nonetheless. If they want to say, heck yes we're bigots, that's fine. But they don't. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
September 26th, 2015 at 12:45:14 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18221 |
And what do you call someone who rants against the church because they disagree with their beliefs? The President is a fink. |
September 26th, 2015 at 1:17:02 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
Not with their beliefs, with their practices, past and present. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
September 26th, 2015 at 1:22:00 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 | You can't make this stuff up. A US congressman stole the water glass the pope drank from, so him and his wife could sip the magical potion and sprinkle it on their grandkids. This is superstitious insanity run amok in 2015. These people are certifiable nut jobs and they hold elective office. Good grief. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3249286/Holy-water-Congressman-steals-Pope-Francis-glass-White-House-address-sip-remaining-liquid-wife-saves-sprinkle-grandchildren.html If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
September 26th, 2015 at 1:36:44 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18221 |
Isn't this kind of a bigoted statement? The President is a fink. |
September 26th, 2015 at 6:33:34 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Thanks Duffman. The Pope keeps going but I need a little break, I don't know where this 78 year old gets his energy. Anyway I know Bob likes definitions so I thought this definition of Bigotry by Wikipedia was a good one: refers to a state of mind where a person is obstinately, irrationally, or unfairly intolerant of ideas, opinions, or beliefs that differ from their own, and intolerant of the people who hold them. I suggest that Bob's attacks on Catholicism fit this definition. By the way I think it is obvious the Pope understands, and so do I, that some of the teachings of the Church are hard to understand or strike a very personal and sometimes painful chord with people. However, I think the Pope is showing very clearly that all our teachings are based on love and respect for every human person. A male only priesthood is not based on inequality. Marriage between a man and a woman is not based on hatred. Supporting natural family planning is not meant to be a burden but a blessing for couples. You might disagree with these teachings, but it is bigotry I think to assume the worst and say that the Catholic Church is motivated by anything other than a deep concern and love for humanity. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
September 26th, 2015 at 12:11:56 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
I'm a bigot, so probably. I have no problem saying that. Just don't blow smoke up my beehind if you're something like the Church and have all these rules that obviously make you a bigot, and try and claim you're not. big·ot ˈbiɡət/ noun noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions. One who is intolerantly devoted to his or her opinions and prejudices The definition of bigot doesn't perfectly describe the Church's position on Gay sex and Gay marriage? Of course it does. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
September 26th, 2015 at 12:18:18 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
He's only 78? He looks 85 and about to fall over half the time.
A perfect description of the Church's position on Gay sex and Gay marriage. Thank you.
But the awful history of the Church is not. Why is it fine to condemn all the members of the current Nazi Party because of their awful past, yet we aren't supposed to condemn the Catholic Church for theirs. Kind of a double standard, don't you think? If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
September 26th, 2015 at 12:21:19 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18221 |
Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing. By your standard anyone with any personal belief is a bigot. The President is a fink. |
September 26th, 2015 at 12:54:30 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
Not at all. But when you advertise your bigotry, like the Church does, when you put your intolerance on display for all to see, like your proud of it, then it's hard to ignore. It's impossible to respect any bigoted organization when they try and cover their bigotry, their hurting of others, by saying it's really love and compassion they're showing. This makes them both bigots and hypocrites. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |