Playboy models no longer nude

Never mind.

Quote: reno

Never mind.

Wonder how much severance they are giving the idiot MBA who came up with the whole idea? Get rid of everything your brand is about to chase a new, PC market.

Ambiguous if "Entertainment for Men" will come back. If Playboy is afraid to say that, the world is beyond saving from PC.

Quote: AZDuffman

Wonder how much severance they are giving the idiot MBA who came up with the whole idea? Get rid of everything your brand is about to chase a new, PC market.

Ambiguous if "Entertainment for Men" will come back. If Playboy is afraid to say that, the world is beyond saving from PC.

Playboy continued to publish photos of scantily clad models, just no nudity. So it was more of Victoria's Secret catalogue. I wouldn't describe the Victoria's Secret catalogue images as "politically correct," I'd describe them as erotica intended to titillate (and sell underwear, of course.) All along, Playboy has been soft-core pornography (as distinct from hardcore pornography) but pornography nonetheless.

But you raise an interesting question, AZDuffman, is opposition to pornography the same as "political correctness"?

The Republican Party is officially opposed to pornography. I think the Republican Party should stay out of it, and let the market decide, don't you?

I'll give some credit to George H.W. Bush's Justice Department for shutting down the previous Reagan Administration's efforts to prosecute producers of consensual adult porn. Clinton was on the same page, but when the second Bush took over, his Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez started up the Obscenity Prosecution Task Force appease the religious right. Eric Holder disbanded the unit, and only prosecuted violations of the Child Exploitation and Obscenity section. Jeff Sessions has indicated he wants the Federal government to prosecute adult porn.

I think the government should stay out of it, don't you?

Quote: reno

But you raise an interesting question, AZDuffman, is opposition to pornography the same as "political correctness"?

Playboy was not thought of as pornography for the most part. It was kind what it said, "Entertainment for Men." Taking that tagline off is just the ultimate silliness of PC. Instead of being for men, they are for "everybody." Can't even have a men's mag say it is for men.

Quote: Evenbob

My invention was, anyway.
1978. I made the very first health food dogfood
when I lived in Marin county, N of San Francisco.

Did you get the idea while at Woodstock or Haight-Ashbury?

Quote: AZDuffman

Playboy was not thought of as pornography for the most part. It was kind what it said, "Entertainment for Men." Taking that tagline off is just the ultimate silliness of PC. Instead of being for men, they are for "everybody." Can't even have a men's mag say it is for men.

The magazine went off the rails as far as what was considered as erotic quite some time ago. The mag continued to show DD-cup girls with bouiffant hairdos as the epitome of sexiness for fifty years after the Fifties ended. Probably because Hefner, sinking slowly into senility, continued to be the boss of the magazine--he grew up in the Forties/Fifties.

I really, really, really doubt that Playboy has ever felt that it needed to be "PC." I know that Republicans consider being PC (however they choose to define that at any given microsecond) to be the ultimate sin, but what Playboy is doing is rebranding, with the realization that they had been outdone in the "titillating erotica" market some time ago and what it really is now is a general interest magazine--and not just a men's magazine either; acknowledging that isn't being PC, it's being realistic. Not to mention that the current social and political climate aside, them nasty bitches do spend money and might feel more inclined to buy the mag now.

I for one just bought Playboy to read the editorials.

Just how dumb do you have to be to operate a money losing casino in 1981-84 in Atlantic City ?

I'd been a subscriber since high school in 1981. I genuinely did read it for the articles, since the girls the last few years had been cookie-cutter, peroxide blonde, no public hair and boob jobs. I find those boring. No one reads Playboy for the girls anymore. Too much free porn available.

Playboy will have to do more to win me back, since I don't see myself ever buying an issue in a store now after the Big Change couple years ago. Playboy subscription in 1981 was $36/year, the equal of about $90 today. When I stopped, it was about $20/yr.

Quote: AZDuffman

Playboy was not thought of as pornography for the most part.

Historically? Of course it was. Hugh Hefner was arrested in 1963 on obscenity charges. You really think they'd arrest the publisher of Better Homes & Gardens for that kind of thing? Even as late as the 80s, 7-Eleven stores considered Playboy to be pornographic.

And these days, many prisons enforce a ban on Playboy.

Quote: reno

Historically? Of course it was. Hugh Hefner was arrested in 1963 on obscenity charges. You really think they'd arrest the publisher of Better Homes & Gardens for that kind of thing? Even as late as the 80s, 7-Eleven stores considered Playboy to be pornographic.

And these days, many prisons enforce a ban on Playboy.

7-11 IIRC pulled all adult mags. Prisons often have a ban not only on nudes but lewds. One prison I was in we knew the nudes had to be banned because all the inmates had pics of women scantily clad but not nude.

Plus "Playboy" has moved upmarket over time. The key phrase was when I said, "For the most part."