1 million refugees in Germany

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December 8th, 2015 at 12:40:57 PM permalink
Canyonero
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Quote: Ayecarumba
How many of the refugees are men of fighting age? If the west were to train and equip them, could they be a viable fighting force?


66% of refugees are male.
70% of male refugees are under 30.
Not all of them are Syrians though, so my best guess is 200'000 men. How much is that in platoons or batallions or whatever?
However, among them there are many husbands and fathers and university student internet nerds...
December 8th, 2015 at 1:21:16 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Canyonero
there are many husbands and fathers ..


That describes exactly the Muslim
who shot all those people in Calif
last week. What a coincidence.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 8th, 2015 at 1:38:26 PM permalink
Ayecarumba
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Quote: Canyonero
66% of refugees are male.
70% of male refugees are under 30.
Not all of them are Syrians though, so my best guess is 200'000 men. How much is that in platoons or batallions or whatever?
However, among them there are many husbands and fathers and university student internet nerds...


200,000 men is an army. Properly equipped, trained and motivated, they could challenge ISIS.
December 8th, 2015 at 1:45:06 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: Canyonero
AThose banlieues were at the center of the 2005 youth riots in Paris. Think Detroit with bands of marauding and pillaging youth. Actually, just think Detroit.


Oh, Detroit is not that bad. I haven't been there since 1989, but if it were as bad as you say, we would bring in the military to restore order. I'd hazard to say that the crime statistics for Detroit are not significantly different from other midwestern cities of comparable population.

EB is from northern Michigan. He probably wants nothing to do with Detroit, but maybe can chime in anyway.
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December 8th, 2015 at 2:10:43 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Wizard


EB is from northern Michigan. He probably wants nothing to do with Detroit, but maybe can chime in anyway.


West MI and we have nothing to do
with East MI. Ask Ibeatyouraces, he
lives in Detroit.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 8th, 2015 at 3:35:47 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Wizard
Oh, Detroit is not that bad. I haven't been there since 1989, but if it were as bad as you say, we would bring in the military to restore order.



I've had that discussion about Harrisburg, the capitol of Pennsylvania. On paper it looks like a criminal nightmare with a peak of 16 murders in 2009, a very high rate for a city of 50K people in about 5K acres of land. But many people point out that it is an incredibly lively city for such a small town, bolstered by thousands of young people working for the state government. You simply know that some neighborhoods are full of crack dens, but they feel there is not reason not to live in the city.

In 2014, there were 298 murders in Detroit, down from 316 murders in 2013, but a Michigan Metropolitan Information Center study has routinely shown crime in Downtown Detroit (CBD) is much lower than national, state and metro averages.

But still those statistics give you pause

MURDER RATE
St. Louis 318,574 population w/159 murders or 49.9 per 100,000
Detroit 684,694 population w/298 murders or 43.5 per 100,000
Harrisburg 49,109 population w/17 murders or 34.6 per 100,000
Las Vegas 1,530,899 population w/122 murders or 8.0 per 100,000
New York City 8,473,938 population w/333 murders or 3.9 per 100,000
Seattle 663,410 population w/26 murders or 3.9 per 100,000

Quote: Wizard
I'd hazard to say that the crime statistics for Detroit are not significantly different from other midwestern cities of comparable population.

That statement is probably a stretch

Violent Crime per 100K - Michigan - Population
1,989 Detroit 684,694
714 Grand Rapids 193,385
475 Warren 135,080
169 Sterling Heights 131,604
165 Ann Arbor 117,768
1,117 Lansing 113,901
1,708 Flint 99,166
299 Clinton Township 98,897
355 Dearborn 95,396
127 Livonia 94,833
132 Canton Township 89,073
60 Troy 83,279
361 Westland 82,246
116 Farmington Hills 81,682
124 Shelby Township 76,556
1,165 Kalamazoo 75,857
387 Wyoming 74,603
314 Southfield 73,321
115 Waterford Township 73,308
76 West Bloomfield Township 66,222
December 8th, 2015 at 3:48:22 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Wizard
Oh, Detroit is not that bad. I haven't been there since 1989, but if it were as bad as you say, we would bring in the military to restore order. I'd hazard to say that the crime statistics for Detroit are not significantly different from other midwestern cities of comparable population.


Detroit is a very large city geographically. Parts are going to be not that bad, parts are clearly a no-man's land.
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December 8th, 2015 at 3:56:06 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Flint is the worst, mostly black. It's the
only city I've been in where house after
house on street after street, had bars
on every window and door, even the
small basement windows. Burglary is
a way of life there. Lansing is a college
town and the capital, that stat suprised
me.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 8th, 2015 at 4:00:20 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Flint is the worst, mostly black. It's the
only city I've been in where house after
house on street after street, had bars
on every window and door, even the
small basement windows. Burglary is
a way of life there. Lansing is a college
town and the capital, that stat suprised
me.


Bob, are you a bigot?

Quote: Evenbob

In the old days, a bigoted White man would
hire another White man every time instead
of a Black man, no matter how better qualified
the Black man was. Better to have all Whites
than even one Black. That's you attitude in
this issue. Your bigotry against Gays prevents
you from seeing that an unqualified man makes
a very poor father and the child would be far
better off with the two women.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
December 8th, 2015 at 4:09:41 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
Bob, are you a bigot?


I won't participate in a poll unless
the bigot option is available. I am
intolerant of certain people, but
unlike the Church, at least I admit
it. Certain people have try much
harder to convince me they can
be trusted. It's called being victimized
by certain people in the past.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
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