Neo-monophysitism
December 15th, 2015 at 11:50:04 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | What I think it shows us is that the Lord with be with us even in the midst of our good time and our bad. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
December 15th, 2015 at 11:54:01 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
There would be evidence and there is none. (geez this is getting boring, it's like talking to a robot)
I don't have a closed mind at all, I resent the implication. I'm significantly older than you and have been looking at this stuff with an open mind for a very long time. The more I study Christians, the more confused they seem. If their god wants and needs them so desperately, why can't he herd them under one roof, instead of thousands. You have the advantage of tunnel vision, you only see your brand of Christianity. I see them all at once, they're all the same to me. All I see is confusion and chaos and if that's god revealing himself, it looks more like a madhouse than a church. I want nothing to do with it. Here I am, I'm not stopping a god from revealing himself. How hard can that be. I've had that attitude for over 40 years an am still waiting. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
December 15th, 2015 at 12:02:28 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Not really. If there was such a being and all the things you say are true, it's rather his job to love us, and our job to be subservient. That's how this deal works. It would be like me being amazed that my dog loves me so much. That's how he's wired, he has no choice, nothing amazing there at all. What would be amazing is if you thought your god didn't love you. What's the point of inventing a god that hates you, that would be rather counter productive. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
December 15th, 2015 at 12:35:15 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Do you know the dark joke about the guy who killed his parents? At trial he asks the judge for mercy because he's an orphan. See, nothing changes the fact that your god decided to kill an awful lot of people he claims to love, if you take the myths seriously. This describes an abuser. IN the case of Job, Jehovah decides to torture the man, to kill his family, and then to call him names, all over a bet. If you call this love, you definitely have no idea what love is. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
December 15th, 2015 at 12:44:37 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
There is evidence that God is real, ask me or any of the other people in the world that believe in God and have experienced His real presence and effectiveness in their lives.
I'm sorry, but in regards to Catholicism in particular you do have a closed mind and seem to refuse to truly listen to what the Church teaches preferring instead your misconceptions and twisted view of dogmas and history.
It is one roof, just with many different rooms. It was not always so. Dang our pride and sin that separates us and causes so much division in the world.
Maybe you could start with acknowledging the possibility of a God existing and see what happens from there. Or simply offer a sincere prayer that you are open and ask God to reveal Himself to you. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
December 15th, 2015 at 12:48:22 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Remember two things about the story of Job. First it is a fictional story and second it is the evil one, not God that causes such misfortune to befall him. Also in every case I can quickly think of it is not as if God in the Scriptures kills people without warning them multiple times as to what their actions will cause. If a father continues to tell you not to run across the road, builds a fence, and grabs you over and over when you try but you still decide to hop the fence and run across people will get killed, sometimes even innocent people along with you. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
December 15th, 2015 at 1:00:31 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Yes, because it's contained in a 100% fictional book.
With Jehovah's permission and as part of a bet. This is like blaming the dealer for the hand.
In your parable, the parent gets so fed up he pushes the kid onto the road, as well as all the neighborhood kids he can grab. Then you come along and use this to illustrate how much this parent loved their children. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
December 15th, 2015 at 1:25:03 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
You want your 'feelings' to convince people god exists. Good luck with that.
I don't refuse to listen, I refuse to believe. Your religion is based not on fact, but on wishful thinking and hearsay after the fact second hand information passed on by word of mouth and then written down decades after the events happened. Pardon me if I'm skeptical.
Dang an all powerful god who can't even keep the details of his own church in order. It's almost like there's no god at all behind it.
Oh, that's how I was for decades. Do you think I tried to become a Christian in my youth as an atheist? I always looked at god as a possibility. Somewhere along the line, after studying religion after religion, I realized I was an atheist. It's not a decision you make, it's a conclusion you come to. And I did all that praying stuff decades ago, nothing ever came of it. I wish we we're discussing Hinduism, it's a far more interesting religion than any of Yahweh's. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
December 15th, 2015 at 2:13:46 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
You know better than that.
You need to remember again the nature and genre of the story of Job. How do we deal with life when we are dealt a bad hand?
Not at all. God never causes us our pushes us to sin He is constantly trying to help us avoid the dangerous road. The dilemma here is that our children have free will to choose to disobey us and run across the road claiming that the parents warnings and fences are restricting us from doing what we want to do. What is a father to do? When the kids run across the road innocent people are hurt too. Maybe another parable would involve the father telling the son not to do something that would involve the hurting and destruction of many people yet the rebellious child does it anyway. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
December 15th, 2015 at 2:17:10 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Not with feelings but with changed lives and real experiences.
This is the problem.
There is nothing at all wrong about being skeptical, it is healthy. This comment contradicts your earlier one.
Dang the gift of free will.
I'm happy to discuss Hinduism. I'd love to learn more about Hinduism and discuss it. Start a thread. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |