Neo-monophysitism
December 14th, 2015 at 5:37:45 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Why not just restrict all my info to what the Church puts out. That's the way it used to be. That's the way they want it to be again. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
December 14th, 2015 at 5:53:33 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | No, I just think that if you want to really understand the Church's teaching on Original Sin you might want to actually learn what the Church teaches about it instead of trusting some crazy people with an axe to grind against the Church or you poor formation and understanding of Christianity and the poor examples of Christians you constantly complain about. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
December 14th, 2015 at 6:01:25 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Original sin is a fairy tail, what difference does it make what somebodies opinion of it is. Back to Unicorns. Why would I care about a groups opinion on a beast that's a myth? Pretending that something is real doesn't make it real. Sin and original sin are made up concepts, you can't show evidence they aren't. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
December 14th, 2015 at 6:11:52 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | My bad, I thought you wanted to know what the Catholic Church actually taught about Original Sin. If you prefer to persist in your misconceptions that is your right. In the future you might want to preface your thoughts of Original Sin by saying something like, "According to me this is what the Church teaches" or "This is what I want the Church to teach and believe"
That is true, pretending something is not real also does not make it not real. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
December 14th, 2015 at 7:00:18 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | By taking that out of context, the meaning gets spun. The bible doesn't deny other god's, it's about who is number one. It is alright to have lesser deity's as long as they are not "before him". Similar to church's. As long as they can be first and deride other believers, as almost right, but not quite, everything is copacetic. If some other faction rises up as the Protestants did in Ireland, your people are fully willing to kill them. Eighty five percent of wars are started claiming religious superiority. "The greatest lies, are those of omission" The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
December 14th, 2015 at 7:17:05 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
If there is no evidence it's real, like for god, thinking it's not real is not pretending. My friend Ed says being a priest is like living in a bubble, except you don't know it's a bubble until you escape from it. Once you're on the outside of the bubble, and can think with a clear head, you can't believe you were ever a part of it. That's how I think of you, like you're in a prison of your own making. But you can't escape and have convinced yourself you don't even want to escape. It's a lot like the Stockholm Syndrome, only more insidious. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
December 14th, 2015 at 7:27:08 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
This wikipedia article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Judaism Explains the polytheistic nature of early Judaism. Looks like monotheism won out, and did their best to suppress the polytheistic views, as you might expect. A little timeline - 1100 to 600 bce - competing religions, including both poly and monotheistic pre-Judaism 600-500 bce - compilation of the first 5 books of the bible, directive of monotheism +/- 100 years on all those, I have trouble remembering how to go from something like "the first century bce" to a range of years like 100 - 0 "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
December 14th, 2015 at 7:45:07 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Can you explain this confusing statement? Are you saying there is no God because there is no evidence there is no God?
I know your friend Ed was a priest in a different time and I also know how poor his formation was. It is certainly not anything like he is telling you. As a parish priest you are the front lines of the cultural wars. I am dealing all the time with people who think and act differently than myself. The diocesan priesthood is sometimes called the secular priesthood because we are not in a bubble or a monastery, we are dealing constantly with the confusion and lack of understanding you demonstrate here on the forum. I live in the world but not of the world. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
December 14th, 2015 at 7:51:02 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 |
I just got a visual of the poor serfs living in fear and willing to change their beliefs willy nilly as whatever power or authority rode through the village, armed and ready to punish severely anyone with conflicting opinions. I have to wonder how many times the serfs were forced at spearpoint to denounce whatever messiah they had the day before? The greatest power controls the biggest evil. Like democracy at the end of a gun. The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
December 14th, 2015 at 8:04:33 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
If you ask me what you're holding in your hand and your hand is empty, and I say 'you're holding nothing', you can't tell me to quit pretending I see nothing in your hand. I'm not pretending. Just because you think you see something doesn't mean it's really there.
The bubble he refers to is the bubble of the religion. With it's rules and regulations and rituals. Academics live in such a bubble, as do the military, and people in prison. Breaking out can be very hard, some can't do well on the outside. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |