Trump vs Hillary 2016

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June 11th, 2016 at 11:29:24 AM permalink
terapined
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Looks like the Trump campaign has jumped the shark
A few months ago, they cut off entry into the Tampa Convention Center due to maximum capacity
Today, everybody got in
They never shut the doors
Didn't even check tickets
Room was about 1/3 filled
Next time Trump is in town, they need to rent a much smaller place
Trump never once asked the media cameras to pan the room to see how big the crowd is
This picture was taken during Trumps speech by me

https://www.flickr.com/photos/22787213@N02/27603171525/in/dateposted-public/
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June 11th, 2016 at 12:08:30 PM permalink
Wizard
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Thanks for the report. I thought he drew huge crowds. Was this rally equally as well advertised as the first one? Did you see a single face there that wasn't white?
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June 11th, 2016 at 12:40:22 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Wizard
Thanks for the report. I thought he drew huge crowds. Was this rally equally as well advertised as the first one? Did you see a single face there that wasn't white?


And what would be wrong if this was the case? Open event, anyone could come.
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June 11th, 2016 at 12:44:38 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Wizard
Thanks for the report. I thought he drew huge crowds. Was this rally equally as well advertised as the first one? Did you see a single face there that wasn't white?


It was a huge crowd a few months ago at the same Convention Center. A few months ago the rally was on a work day, Monday. Maximum capacity. Doors closed an hour early.
Today, Saturday, I would expect a bigger crowd of Trump supporters but no. Tickets were ignored. They knew ahead of time a small crowd. Anybody could get in, no ticket needed. They never closed the doors. No lines like the last time.
The number of protesters at this event was larger and better organized with printed large signs instead of a bunch of handmades.
Huge police presence outside when the rally emptied. Absolutely no violence. A line of blue between the 2 groups. Some protesters and supporters tried to outflank the blue line , the blue line moved to keep both groups apart. Kind of funny because the Guardian Angels were there with absolutely nothing to do but twiddle their thumbs.
I didn't take any videos of the protest because I did a live Periscope broadcast instead. Its probably still on the site. I think they keep stuff up 24 hrs.
These rallys are really never advertised
The 1st one I only found out that morning
This one I knew a few days ahead of time
Mostly White with a tiny sprinkle of blacks, Asians and hispanics
I saw one real nicely dressed black couple that were probably Jewish. He had a nice jewish style cap and strings hanging from his belt
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June 11th, 2016 at 12:44:50 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Wizard
Thanks for the report. I thought he drew huge crowds.


Summer now, kids are out of school,
primaries are over, the big crowds
will disappear and come back in the
fall. We all have election fatigue now,
happens every election cycle.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 11th, 2016 at 1:13:17 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Mexico has a wall on their southern border to prevent illegals from entering. So why is it OK for them but not for the USA?!

http://latinamericacurrentevents.com/tapachula-chiapas-mexico-58-percent-of-women-engaged-in-prostitution-are-from-guatemala-many-are-underaged/20787/


The level of violence on the Southern Border is extremely high. I saw a statistic on the estimated number of prostitutes in Tapachula, and it was huge. The article above says 58% are of the prostitutes are from Guatemala.

The first ~40 miles goes from the ocean to the mountains, but the entire border is over 200 miles long. There is no wall, just a lot of violent gangs of men who prey on the illegal immigrants (and some federal troops). Most immigrants are trying to get to the USA, but if they are robbed along the way, many stay in Mexico.

The combined population of the 171 US cities of size 150K and larger is 76.3 million as of mid 2015. Urban USA (which includes suburbs and small towns) has increased by 100 million from 1960 to 2010. Since the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 changed the way quotas were allocated by ending the National Origins Formula that had been in place in the United States since the Emergency Quota Act of 1921. Since then close to 40 million immigrants have entered legally, and combined with their children and grandchildren should total to 75-100 million.

No sane person would argue that a nation has no right to control it's borders.

I would argue that illegal immigration peaked 20 years ago. In the 1990's the urban population increased by 35 million, in the 2000's it increased by 27 million. I know that is a broad metric, but there are many other ones that show a decrease. One of which is plunging fertility rate in Mexico, and much better economic conditions there (and worse ones here).
June 11th, 2016 at 1:24:41 PM permalink
TheCesspit
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Quote: Wizard
Thanks for the report. I thought he drew huge crowds. Was this rally equally as well advertised as the first one? Did you see a single face there that wasn't white?


Not sure he's a draw right now... Until the conventions it's a Quiet war...
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June 11th, 2016 at 1:29:14 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: TheCesspit
Not sure he's a draw right now... Until the conventions it's a Quiet war...


It's over till the conventions and this coming
Fall. After Labor Day it will kick into high
gear again. Trump will hit all the state
fairs and draw huge crowds, but filling
stadiums now? I doubt it, why would
they come, there's no voting
coming up for 5 months.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 11th, 2016 at 1:30:23 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Pacomartin

No sane person would argue that a nation has no right to control it's borders.


Someone needs to tell that to the left.

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I would argue that illegal immigration peaked 20 years ago. In the 1990's the urban population increased by 35 million, in the 2000's it increased by 27 million. I know that is a broad metric, but there are many other ones that show a decrease. One of which is plunging fertility rate in Mexico, and much better economic conditions there (and worse ones here).


Mexican illegal immigration probably shifted to OTM more than we realize. I have heard that Mexico will get to zero population grwoth the next decade or so. You are right on economic conditions, for one Mexico is building a killer auto industry.

What is more and more happening is the USA side of the border getting more dangerous. And it keeps getting worse.
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June 11th, 2016 at 10:45:12 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: AZDuffman
I have heard that Mexico will get to zero population grwoth the next decade or so. You are right on economic conditions, for one Mexico is building a killer auto industry.


You have to clarify your terms a little. Replacement or sub-replacement total fertility rates will certainly happen in Mexico within the decade. But Mexicans are still a decade younger than Americans. Zero Population Growth (ZPG) or Negative Population Growth (NPG) can be either "natural" or "with net immigration/emmigration". So they won't achieve ZPG for a while, as they are too young to die in the large numbers as Americans.

US Census Bureau says that 2.65 million American will die this year, but only 651 thousand Mexicans and 72 thousand Guatemalans. In all three countries, births will still outnumber deaths in 2050 (according to US Census bureau estimates). Canada should reach natural ZPG in a decade. NPG is very strong in Japan or Russia where deaths are much higher than births.

Year:Population: Births- Deaths

United States
2016: 323,995,528: 4,040,224 - 2,650,283
2050: 398,328,349: 4,413,478 - 4,090,832

Mexico
2016: 123,166,749: 2,283,512 - 651,552
2050: 150,567,503: 1,692,379 - 1,300,903

Guatemala
2016: 15,189,958: 372,306 - 71,849
2050: 22,995,434: 339,873 - 132,454

Canada
2016: 35,362,905: 363,177 - 301,999
2025: 37,558,781: 366,198 - 362,067
2050: 41,135,648: 399,427 - 527,359

Japan
2016: 126,702,133: 987,010 - 1,221,409
2050: 107,209,536: 721,520 - 1,470,915

Russia
2016: 142,355,415: 1,610,040 - 1,933,187
2050: 129,908,086: 1,123,705 - 1,913,546