The Bible God or Kali

Quote: FrGamble

What you can't find is any science that even points in the direction that there is no God. .

That's no argument, as we've covered
a hundred times and you've obviously
forgotten.

Quote: FrGamble

Science is not dealing with the existence of God is it? What you can't find is any science that even points in the direction that there is no God. What you also can't find is any philosophical or logical argument that shows there is no God. If you are looking for God through science you are looking in the wrong place. It is like looking at the Bible to do science, you are mixed up.

This again?

Of all the major religions,
There is no way to prove what they believe is true.
There is no way to prove what they believe is false.
They have many incompatible, contradictory beliefs.
There is no way to choose between them.

For me, there is no reason to choose at all.

Quote: Dalex64

For me, there is no reason to choose at all.

What you see in somebody like FrG is
a person who's chosen a dogma
and is dug in to defend it. It's no better
or worse than any flawed dogma, but none
of them have anything to do with the
truth. That they think it's the truth and the
lengths they go to defend it, that's where
the entertainment value comes from.

Quote: Dalex64

Of all the major religions,
There is no way to prove what they believe is true.

Is it historically verifiable? Does it help humanity know itself and create culture and progress? Does it give us a moral guide that respects and honors the dignity of all people and their freedom? Does it help people become the best version of themselves? Is there evidence that it is real in miracles and supernatural phenomenon?

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There is no way to prove what they believe is false.

See above.

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They have many incompatible, contradictory beliefs.

Christianity does not.

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There is no way to choose between them.

Of course there is.

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For me, there is no reason to choose at all.

Choosing what to believe on the question of God and religion is one of the most important decisions we can make as human beings. It determines everything else that we do and think.

Quote: Evenbob

What you see in somebody like FrG is
a person who's chosen a dogma
and is dug in to defend it. It's no better
or worse than any flawed dogma, but none
of them have anything to do with the
truth. That they think it's the truth and the
lengths they go to defend it, that's where
the entertainment value comes from.

This coming from someone who holds the ultimate flawed dogma of atheism?!? You know what would be really entertaining is if you would try to defend atheism. Oh that is right it is nothing and about nothing so it doesn't need to be defended, hilarious!

Quote: FrGamble

Is it historically verifiable? Does it help humanity know itself and create culture and progress? Does it give us a moral guide that respects and honors the dignity of all people and their freedom? Does it help people become the best version of themselves? Is there evidence that it is real in miracles and supernatural phenomenon?

applies to all of the major religions.

if you are choosing the one that seems to be the most moral to you, you are making a choice, not determining which of them are actually true.

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They have many incompatible, contradictory beliefs.

Christianity does not.

between the different religions, not just the ones that are within the religion itself.

My point being - not all of them can be true, and none of them can be proved to be false.

By your reasoning, if their beliefs can not be proved to be false, then they must be true.

But clearly, because of their incompatible and contradictory beliefs between these several religions, they can not possibly all be true.

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Choosing what to believe on the question of God and religion is one of the most important decisions we can make as human beings. It determines everything else that we do and think.

My point here is still that you are not choosing what is true, you are choosing what you like or what you were brought up to believe.

Quote: FrGamble

This coming from someone who holds the ultimate flawed dogma of atheism?!? You know what would be really entertaining is if you would try to defend atheism. Oh that is right it is nothing and about nothing so it doesn't need to be defended, hilarious!

Atheism dogma, there is no such thing.

It's not hilarious, it's nothing.

Quote: FrGamble

Choosing what to believe on the question of God and religion is one of the most important decisions we can make.

Actually, it's the most important. It colors
and influences everything you do from
then on. It's very important to choose
wisely, examine all religions that look
valid from every angle. If you just play
it safe, as most people do, and go with
what you were taught as kids, you're
basically screwed. You'll spend your life
worshiping a god who isn't even there.

Quote: Evenbob

Actually, it's the most important. It colors
and influences everything you do from
then on. It's very important to choose
wisely, examine all religions that look
valid from every angle. If you just play
it safe, as most people do, and go with
what you were taught as kids, you're
basically screwed. You'll spend your life
worshiping a god who isn't even there.

This is true.

Are you saying that at the end of your examination you have decided there is no God?!? What in the world led you to that conclusion?

Quote: Evenbob

Atheism dogma, there is no such thing.

It's not hilarious, it's nothing.

Hilarious! LOL!