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July 29th, 2023 at 4:44:18 AM permalink
DRich
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'Paralyzed NY man can move and feel again — thanks to AI ‘miracle’ surgery'

He became a quadriplegic after diving into a pool.


It just annoys me that everyone is throwing around the term "A.I." now for anything that involves computers. I had a robotic assisted Transforaminal Lumbar Interbody Fusion a few years ago and today people would call that "A.I." even though it is not at all. Sorry for the rant, it just bothers me that people are calling everything A.I. now.
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July 31st, 2023 at 10:05:15 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Earth's rocket men have gotten pretty clever with the gravity assist thing. The European Space Agency is using 4 such assists, and 8 years, to get to Ganymede, Callisto, and Europa, 3 moons of Jupiter that have liquid water oceans and have a chance of harboring life. It'll take another 3 years to get to Ganymede [11 years altogether after launching on 14th of April this year] and actually orbit there. In the beginning it will do fly-bys of the moons.

Wow is that a reminder of how little further exploration of those moons I'm likely to see in my lifetime and may not see this! 2034 we are talking here.

The ESA probe is called JUICE and as far as I can tell will not send something to land on anything. Ice-penetrating radar and other exotic instruments will do the exploring ... and probably amaze us with what they can deduce. NASA is planning a launch in 2024 for their "Europa Clipper", also an orbiter I think, to study Europa, another potential place with ocean life.

Here is how JUICE will use gravity assists to get to Jupiter.

from wikipedia page.

Yellow is Venus, Blue is Earth, and if I'm right, the light blue is Rosa, an asteroid. Green of course is Jupiter. Go to the wikipedia page to see the key for yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_Icy_Moons_Explorer
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July 31st, 2023 at 10:14:26 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Tanko
'Paralyzed NY man can move and feel again — thanks to AI ‘miracle’ surgery'

He became a quadriplegic after diving into a pool.


Vaxxed?
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August 1st, 2023 at 9:48:41 AM permalink
rxwine
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Heh.

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We found 410 dead birds collected along 196 km of power lines in four western USA states during 2019–2022. We necropsied these carcasses to test conventional wisdom suggesting that electrocution is the leading cause of death of birds at electrical infrastructure. Of 175 birds with a known cause of death, 66% died from gunshot. Both raptors and corvids were more likely to die from gunshot than from other causes, along both transmission and distribution lines. Past mitigation to reduce avian deaths along power lines has focused almost exclusively on reducing electrocutions or collisions. Our work suggests that, although electrocution and collision remain important, addressing illegal shooting now may have greater relevance for avian conservation.


https://www.cell.com/iscience/fulltext/S2589-0042(23)01351-2?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS2589004223013512%3Fshowall%3Dtrue

I imagine a projectile hitting a powerline might be an issue as well, if it's more than a pellet gun.
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August 18th, 2023 at 2:35:49 PM permalink
rxwine
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I need to send this to my sister and see what she thinks. She’s been having neck pain or back problems for awhile now

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For ages, bad posture has been assumed to cause back pain. Now some physiotherapists are rethinking what we should be doing with our spines
16:00 EDT Saturday, 05 August 2023

On the first day of classes at physiotherapy school, all students are made to strip down to their underwear. It’s not a hazing ritual, but it is an initiation of sorts. Unclothed, the students are told to study
each other. Who slouches? Who has a flat back? Who suffers from forward head position?

Posture, students are taught, is the key to good health and a strong back. It will be their job, when they graduate, to correct it. People with back pain, they are told, tend to have weak muscles in their backs, leaving their spines vulnerable. Get the postural muscles strong and you could cure the back pain.

Twenty-three years ago, a young Peter O’Sullivan was standing in that line. He remembers copping it from his instructor: he slouched horribly. “Stand up straight, man.” O’Sullivan was the wrong person to target. He remembers standing there, shivering, as his classmates ate up their teacher’s wisdom about bad posture, thinking: “Says who?”
O’Sullivan’s career would be devoted to answering that question. Who says there’s such a thing as bad posture? Where’s the evidence? He pestered his lecturers. He hunted through research
papers.

“And I couldn’t find anything,” he tells me. But the accepted wisdom was what it was, and a young physio wasn’t in a position to change the world – yet. Anyway, first he had to fix his own back.

As he started his physio course, O’Sullivan had just had a major accident – he’d come off his skis, hard. At first he thought he’d broken his spine. He hadn’t, but even after he recovered, the accident left him with chronic back pain. It made standing arduous and bending often impossible.

Eventually, at his lowest point, O’Sullivan spied himself by chance in the mirror. There he was, standing as straight as he could, core on, guarding his back against further injury. He looked, he thought to himself, completely ridiculous. If he was going to have back pain, he wasn’t going to have it looking stupid and feeling stressed – especially because, he remembered, there really wasn’t any evidence it was important.

O’Sullivan quit holding himself so upright. He allowed his natural slouch to creep back in. He relaxed. And, little by little, the pain went away.

That’s an anecdote, O’Sullivan – now a professor at Curtin University – tells me, laughing. You can’t make science out of anecdote. But O’Sullivan was hooked. He decided to re-enrol at university and research posture.

First, O’Sullivan led a team of researchers who conducted a proper, formal search for evidence that posture made a difference to back pain or general health. They found none. Then they started doing their own studies. First they studied people’s postures when they sat, looking at whether they slumped or not. They found no association between sitting posture and back pain. “There’s this kind of fear: ‘My God, if you slouch, you’re going to end up with pain, you’ll end up hunched over.’”

“There is just no good evidence” that posture is in any way a problem, O’Sullivan says. “Often, this is a distractor from the big game. Our spinal health is linked to our general health. Keeping fit and strong. Moving. Eating well. Sleeping well. They’re the things we should be targeting, rather than this idea of targeting body posture. The interventions that have targeted posture haven’t worked. We have to look beyond that.”

O’Sullivan’s ideas troubled me at first because they were so radical. How could posture not matter? But he enjoys widespread support from leaders in pain science. “He’s a very much respected person in the pain space. He’s done an enormous amount of work,” says Tim Austin, chair of the Australian Physiotherapy Association’s National Pain Group. “Peter is on the mark.”
Your posture is governed by the slow-twitch muscle fibres that run through your back. They’re designed to hold positions for a long period of time, but eventually become fatigued. Under stress, they tend to get short and tight. People who don’t move around much tend to overuse these muscles and underuse their more athletic fast-twitch muscles.
What posture should we hold them in? Straight, you might think. But this seems an odd idea, given the spine is naturally curved like an S. Mechanically, it’s just not designed to be straight, says sports and exercise physiotherapist Andrew Smythe. If all the vertebrae were stacked neatly atop one another, there would be tremendous pressure in the bottom components. The S shape is like a suspension bridge, holding thousands of cars aloft by a gossamer thread: it evenly distributes the load across the spine.

“But the precise S-curve of your spine is individual to you. It’s in your genes,” says O’Sullivan. “It’s like our signature. It’s just how we are. This idea of homogenising us, I think it’s more social.”
So where does it come from? The historian Sander Gilman thinks it comes out of the military: the military pose of “standing at attention”, spine rigid, chin tucked, feet under head. This was originally developed as the ideal pose for reloading a musket, and was never natural. Soldiers have to practise it again and again to master it. Over time, this posture became imbued with manliness and honour, and non-soldiers started trying to imitate it. Now we’re all trying to stand to attention.
In a study of 1,108 Australian teenagers using photographic analysis of sitting posture, researchers could find no association between posture and the incidence of headache or neck pain. In adults, there is some evidence of an association between forward head position and neck pain – but it’s not clear which way causation runs. Do we maintain a forward head position because we’re in pain, or does the position cause the pain?

What about back pain? Again, despite dozens of studies, no strong evidence has emerged for a link between posture and back pain, according to an umbrella review of the evidence. Even in people who are forced to take on awkward postures for work, there is no evidence this increases the risk of back pain.
Part of the issue is scientific. “It’s really difficult to measure the different types of physical loads that are placed on the spine. Even changing your posture a little bit can change how the loads are distributed quite a lot,” says Dr Chris Swain, the University of Melbourne researcher who led the meta-analysis.

So we can’t precisely measure the effect of posture on back pain. But, says Swain, there are now enough studies coming to similar conclusions that we can come to an imprecise conclusion: posture
likely doesn’t matter, and if it does matter, the effect is very small. “The association just isn’t that strong.”
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Compare it with things that really make a difference, like depression and anxiety, and the evidence suggests posture just isn’t worth worrying about for most people, he says. “I’m fairly slouched now – and I don’t worry about it.”
There is some evidence people with chronic back pain have weak back muscles. When you image them, you can see the muscle has become withered and infiltrated by strands of white fat. It’s not clear yet why this is. But it doesn’t seem crucial to back pain, because when doctors devised special training programs to strengthen those muscles they found they didn’t help anyone’s back pain.
“At an undergrad physio level, they talk about ideal posture and biomechanics,” Smythe tells me. Then, after really getting to grips with the research, “you kind of see it’s all bullshit”. If you’re healthy, posture just does not seem to matter that much. “It’s the same with running. Look at some of the best runners in the world – they have really funky techniques that don’t fit the textbook, but structurally and functionally they’re strong,” says Smythe.
Of course, there’s no evidence sitting up straight is actually bad for you, experts said. If you feel comfortable that way, or think you look better, go for it.
There’s one area where posture does seem to make a difference: movement. But it’s not the posture we hold, it’s the movement between postures.
After panicked headlines (inaccurately) proclaiming sitting was the “new smoking”, modern offices have embraced sit-stand desks. But Smythe and his colleagues aren’t seeing any fewer injuries. Standing in a static position places as much stress on the body as sitting in one.
In several studies, researchers have found a link between people who don’t move much between different sitting postures over the course of a day and back pain. The idea seems to be that there is no one ideal posture, but that our bodies do best when they’re regularly moving between different postures, straining and working different muscles.
Indeed, this is probably why we get sore if we sit the same way for too long: not because we’re damaging our backs, but because our pain system is telling us to move, please.

This is an edited extract from Back Up by Liam Mannix. Out now through NewSouth Books


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August 19th, 2023 at 3:27:00 AM permalink
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August 19th, 2023 at 3:45:43 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Quote: odiousgambit
Earth's rocket men have gotten pretty clever with the gravity assist thing. The European Space Agency is using 4 such assists, and 8 years, to get to Ganymede, Callisto, and Europa, 3 moons of Jupiter that have liquid water oceans and have a chance of harboring life. It'll take another 3 years to get to Ganymede [11 years altogether after launching on 14th of April this year] and actually orbit there. In the beginning it will do fly-bys of the moons.

Wow is that a reminder of how little further exploration of those moons I'm likely to see in my lifetime and may not see this! 2034 we are talking here.

The ESA probe is called JUICE and as far as I can tell will not send something to land on anything. Ice-penetrating radar and other exotic instruments will do the exploring ... and probably amaze us with what they can deduce. NASA is planning a launch in 2024 for their "Europa Clipper", also an orbiter I think, to study Europa, another potential place with ocean life.

Here is how JUICE will use gravity assists to get to Jupiter.

from wikipedia page.

Yellow is Venus, Blue is Earth, and if I'm right, the light blue is Rosa, an asteroid. Green of course is Jupiter. Go to the wikipedia page to see the key for yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_Icy_Moons_Explorer




Ganymede (#1036) is known as the homosexual asteroid in astrology and a person has the volition.

In theory, it depends where it shows up in a person's chart.


For example, Obama's Ganymede is on his Vertex in Virgo 7th House (House of Marriage, etc.).
August 19th, 2023 at 3:54:36 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Ganymede etymology

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From Greek Γανυμήδης (Ganymedes), which was possibly derived from γάνυμαι (ganymai) meaning "to be glad"
gay you could say?

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and μήδεα (medea) meaning "plans, counsel, cunning".
Oh yes, sounding familiar [emphasis mine]

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In Greek mythology this was the name of a beautiful boy who was abducted by Zeus
I think I see where this is going!

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to become the cupbearer to the gods, the successor of Hebe.
no comment

https://www.behindthename.com/name/ganymede
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August 19th, 2023 at 4:00:15 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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They're using the same name for Jupiter's moon and the asteroid.
August 19th, 2023 at 4:36:16 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Also, Ganymede was later named for the Aquarius constellation in mythology.

Aquarius is Obama's rising sign (time of birth during the day).

Ganymede is in Obama's House of Marriage (7th) and he was instrumental with establishing same-sex marriage laws.
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