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December 11th, 2016 at 1:58:20 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: RonC
I think the number is a good bit less than 15 minutes; with good reason. Hillary said it was about 4 minutes.


My understanding is, 4min after the
decision to launch has been agreed
to and approved. That the whole process
takes longer than 4min. A president
can't say I want to attack and 4min later
the missiles are launched. He has to
go thru a process first to get to the 4min.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 11th, 2016 at 2:25:37 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: Evenbob
My understanding is, 4min after the
decision to launch has been agreed
to and approved. That the whole process
takes longer than 4min. A president
can't say I want to attack and 4min later
the missiles are launched. He has to
go thru a process first to get to the 4min.


That is correct.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
December 11th, 2016 at 2:54:57 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Evenbob
My understanding is, 4min after the
decision to launch has been agreed
to and approved. That the whole process
takes longer than 4min. A president
can't say I want to attack and 4min later
the missiles are launched. He has to
go thru a process first to get to the 4min.


This sounds like me at a job interview trying to BS my way out of a question I don't know the answer to.

At least he prefaced it with "my understanding is."
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December 11th, 2016 at 4:20:04 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: kenarman
That is correct.


Well we could debate what is classified all week, but logic doesn't support bob's position.

4 min - 5 min to get the missiles launch. 15 minutes is way too long for land based missiles. They'll be destroyed in their silos. Since an attacker can launch from planes or subs as well.


Quote:
About five minutes may elapse from the president�s decision until intercontinental ballistic missiles blast out of their silos, and about fifteen minutes until submarine missiles shoot out of their tubes. Once fired, the missiles and their warheads cannot be called back.


http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-nuclear-weapon-launch/
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December 11th, 2016 at 4:31:11 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: rxwine
Well we could debate what is classified all week, but logic doesn't support bob's position.

4 min - 5 min to get the missiles launch. 15 minutes is way too long for land based missiles. They'll be destroyed in their silos. Since an attacker can launch from planes or subs as well.


Quote:
About five minutes may elapse from the president�s decision until intercontinental ballistic missiles blast out of their silos, and about fifteen minutes until submarine missiles shoot out of their tubes. Once fired, the missiles and their warheads cannot be called back.


http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-nuclear-weapon-launch/


That is why they have submarine and plane based nucs. You can't stop the attack but there would always be enough fire power left to make sure we destroy an enemy and the world. Probably half the silos would also still be functional after any attack.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
December 11th, 2016 at 4:47:19 PM permalink
rxwine
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I can't imagine any large scale nuclear exchange as being anything but all sides lose. There will probably be hundreds or more decoys launched from both sides.

Unless they've come up with some magic defense I can't imagine anyone coming out well.
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December 11th, 2016 at 5:07:28 PM permalink
kenarman
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I wonder how fast Monk can launch his ship to Mars. Might be a lot of takers after nuclear devastation.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
December 11th, 2016 at 6:44:18 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Stinky's name is in red again. Another
unplanned vacay, I guess. Some people..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
December 11th, 2016 at 7:19:40 PM permalink
TheCesspit
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I'd assume the country would be at defcon 1. That'd probably mean the Potus has had more than 4 minutes to decide on their response in a variety of scenarios.
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December 11th, 2016 at 7:37:59 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: Evenbob
Tillerson will make a great SoS. He has a ton of experience dealing with other countries, especially Russia.


When it comes to Rex Tillerson, Senator Marco Rubio sure is a Debbie Downer. :(

"Being a 'friend of Vladimir' is not an attribute I am hoping for from a Secretary Of State" said Marco Rubio earlier today (on Twitter.)

It's almost as if Rubio views Putin as untrustworthy. Someone should really tell Donald Trump about how nasty this Putin fellow can be.